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Mobs and Domains
Locke 1:04 AM on November 03, 2009 (+0/-0)
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Problem: Mobs can easily damage domains, even to the point of significantly helping to destroy them.

Solution: Make it so mobs don't damage domains or injure army or guard units at all.

Problems: ???

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Aries 1:41 AM on November 03, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Means that domains are only under threat from players, completely eliminating random risks.

A domain lord has to keep up the repairs, that's just one of his many roles.

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Sinsie 1:59 AM on November 03, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Why don't we try a domain add-on suggestion that could help prevent monsters from causing a ruckus and work from there? Last I checked Cea was working on something similar to that.

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Locke 2:47 AM on November 03, 2009 (+0/-0)
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That works too, and I don't think we shouldn't do that, I just think this would be an easy solution.

Also, Aries, see Irendi Castle. From what I've heard a decent player can take out most of its military just by dragging mobs, and that's not right.

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Stat 1:27 PM on November 03, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Personally I think thats half the battle of owning a high risk domain. GSH I am sure wont ever have a mob the gaurds cant kill, or one that will tear apart the town (unless for some reason a player gets a dragon to chase them ALL the way to town). When you own something like IC you know the risks.

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deanbad 1:38 PM on November 03, 2009 (+0/-0)

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I agree.
The up-side to IC is it's in the middle of no where, takes a while to walk to and you have to fight through a lot of mobs to get there.

Downsides, monsters like to beat up towns, middle of no where.

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DeshTheWraith 4:30 PM on November 03, 2009 (+0/-0)

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I think that'd be less of a problem if there were actual citizens living there. If the town is abandoned it makes perfect sense that monsters would eventually ravage it.

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watabou 6:46 PM on November 09, 2009 (+0/-0)

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DeshTheWraith wrote:
I think that'd be less of a problem if there were actual citizens living there. If the town is abandoned it makes perfect sense that monsters would eventually ravage it.


but the mobs are only around when ppl around around aka trying to use the mobs to dmg the domain in the first place

i dont care either way but i can see why domain owners would be pissed im actualy leaning towards getting rid of them dmging domains cause theres already enough reasons why irendi castle is ****ty now

i doubt this would get changed for this version anywys but maybe for terulia

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deanbad 7:27 PM on November 09, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Mobs can't damage the domains unless the threshold is met. If there are enough players on for the threshold to be met, there should be enough players on to defend against monsters.

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Cea 8:07 PM on November 09, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Dean wrote:
Mobs can't damage the domains unless the threshold is met. If there are enough players on for the threshold to be met, there should be enough players on to defend against monsters.

Threshold is reached extremely often without 2-3 people in every domain.
It's super hard to get that many people to live in IGH or IC anyways because it's so far away.

So no one wants to live there so few would be on if any meaning your point is sort of silly.

It all comes down to situational stuff.

You say it theoretically should be one way when more often than not it's not that way.

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Puffin Island 8:22 PM on November 09, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Dean wrote:
Mobs can't damage the domains unless the threshold is met. If there are enough players on for the threshold to be met, there should be enough players on to defend against monsters.


I'm not sure if you ever realised with you not living in domains often dean, but most players live in GsH. It is really rare for another town to have more players than GsH and its usually my domain that does this ever once in awhile. Sankora has about three people if that on, while GsH will have 15 or more. If people wanted to attack my domain, I better pray that the people of GsH aren't the ones doing it. That being said, letting monster only attack when enough people are on is good in theory. However, their might not be enough people in domains to help out. I dont know if the monsters will be weaker in terulia, but I got a suspicious feeling that the terulia comunity population will not be spread out equally like ffo.

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Lumino 9:21 PM on November 09, 2009 (+0/-0)

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The point being that domains are run by PLAYERS.

If PLAYERS are not in the domain to defend it, then I see no problem. No Players=No Domain.

This is exactly why Armies were toned down, if nobody lives in the domain then it has no reason being a bastion of defense on it's own.

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DeshTheWraith 12:27 AM on November 10, 2009 (+0/-0)

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The problem is that almost every single player that plays regularly is a citizen of Sankora or GsH.

Citizen count list, remember that each one includes Cea with the exception of Sankora and Irendi Castle.

Shyron: (2/8)

IGH: (1/2)

Sankora: (3/32)

IC: (1/2)
Ace (lord).

The only other citizen is Shatter who's chancellor.

Diadel: (1/1)

GsH: (8/169)

Leamaia: (1/2)

Tristram: (2/3)


Updates shouldn't be made based on the current political situation since it's (hopefully) a rare one.

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deanbad 6:32 PM on November 10, 2009 (+0/-0)

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That's why I suggested before that Irendi just get removed completely, but I got owned by tons of people crying about "CONTENT BEING REMOVED"!

Like was mentioned though, if you're not there to defend it, then yeah, bye bye domain. There's no point in you owning something if you're not gonna use it basically.

I think happiness should be affected a lot more if people aren't living in a domain too. Then all the army can go on strike.

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Cea 6:40 PM on November 10, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Let's lure dragons to domains that's so fair

we should totally keep mobs damaging domains as is

e_e

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deanbad 8:03 PM on November 10, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Fairness is a matter of opinion.

Anything other than a direct attack gets heralded as being cowardly, mechanics abuse, etc by those who own the domains.

/fact

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Cea 8:24 PM on November 10, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Dean wrote:

Like was mentioned though, if you're not there to defend it, then yeah, bye bye domain. There's no point in you owning something if you're not gonna use it basically.

Yeah but the point I was making here is that even with 2 or even 3 people on a frost dragon or dark dragon would tear through a town.

Please tell me how that's balanced.

(It's the same logic with HLs, though you'd need more than one mob, obviously).

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deanbad 11:46 PM on November 10, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Kiting a dragon that far to a domain is a challenge in and of itself. The army would rip the dragon up pretty fast unless the people who brought it could keep it healed and buffed, which isn't really easy if they are outlawed.

This goes back to Lumino's point, that it's not really possible if it's a heavily populated domain since there will be people to defend it.

If there's no people living in a domain to protect it, then sucks for whoever owns it.

Edit: If there are two or three people on, that's obviously not a heavily populated domain. Sounds more like Shyron or IGH. Sankora and GSH almost always have people on.

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DeshTheWraith 5:55 AM on November 11, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Dean wrote:
The army would rip the dragon up pretty fast


Your crazy. ****ing bonkers.

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Stat 10:13 AM on November 11, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Not saying Id try to do it but Id like to see gsh army vs a DD. I think it would fall pretty quickly in all honesty unless I sat there curing it.

When outlawd theres at least 10 rangers and 10 mages and lets say 10 gaurds. Give or take Im not really sure. Thats 30 attacks even if they all hit 10 which more or likly most will hit 20 or 30 thats between 300-900 a round. Thats a decently quick fight, though I dont know how many buildings would be destroyed or army units killed, But I think against a single dragon a few minutes and its dead.

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