I have had many instances where this became a issue in this war the biggest offender is jeebs. Jeebs constantly claims neutrality, then attacks us on a daily basis, and when we attack back he threatens bans.

Just today i logged in from getting off work. i get on and i see multiple people in argo who have actively been trying to kill me for the past 2 weeks reap, dar, etc. I gank reap. and i start attacking dar jeebs then says

Announcement: This is the final warning. I don't care about if you guys are in a party or whatever. Reap is done with the fighting. Being to the exact letter on the rules is also hard to enforce when not there. So I will politely ask both sides to stop bec


Announcement: because the next time someone dies for the two sides at war, its a ban. -Jeebs.


Announcement: From*

just because they got killed a bit before i logged on does not mean he can threaten to ban me for spam killing. i was not in ANY PARTY, i have not been online, and i did nothing wrong. This kind of thing is happening more andmore often.

i was then told he issued the same kind of bs warning to deylin who was in the same shoes as me. jeebs abusing admin powers for one side is a giant hypocritical act and is a serious violation of trust as an admin. As well as pleasestop saying "im neutral" we all know its bull****.

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I'm sure it's not that bad.

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Cept for one problem, he didn't ban deylin. I did

Why? Because she knows better, not being a party doesn't exempt you from the 3 pk an hour count, reap ended up dying more than 3 times and deylin's little message of how "im not in a party, i can do this" doesn't really help her case

Black tried this same **** and he ate a ban for it, we're not babysitting you kids, use your head. Zkiller ate a ban a couple days ago for this same thing, don't like it? deal with it. You know the rules start following them

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An admin doesn't need to be neutral to do his job. I'm sure Dean has warned/banned people and he's on your side, that doesn't make him abusing.
Jeebs wasn't threatenning, he was warning BOTH sides to stop, because he wasn't there to see who was killing who.

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Jeebs and Darlute have honestly been abusing their power: like canceling the reboot to try and fix the lag at one point when we were trying to actually do something instead of sit around in town all day like people I could name but I will not.

When that reboot happened there were names thrown at us like "cheaters" and "abusers" and even more, claiming we were giving "unfair advantages". If a war is getting in the way of admins being able to think clearly about decisions then maybe they should not be admins.


Then tonight there was this - I log in late and see that there is PvP going on in Argo. I kill the people who have been on the opposite side of this war once at first. Sasha and a Fighter in New Banian and then Reap in Argo. Reap and Sasha come back to Argo and I kill Reap and Sasha gets killed by Tiplet. Sasha stops coming back, so I killed her once from NB only, but the Fighter came back to Argo so I killed him again. After me being called a griefer and that I cannot kill them after people who I WAS NOT IN A PARTY WITH were killing them before, I stopped. I even killed some of my own 'team' just because I was PvPing for the hell of it.

Then Tyrael comes home and I try to lay off Reap until he hostiled Tyrael in Argo and tried to kill him too, so I killed him my third time.

My kills were 3 on Reap, 1 on Sasha, 2 on the no name Fighter, 1 on Tiplet, and 1 on Deminshi.

How am I griefing and being a spam killer from this?

You have been banned from Final Fantasy Online.
Reason: Spam Killing
Have a nice day!

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Darlute wrote:

Cept for one problem, he didn't ban deylin. I did

Why? Because she knows better, not being a party doesn't exempt you from the 3 pk an hour count, reap ended up dying more than 3 times and deylin's little message of how "im not in a party, i can do this" doesn't really help her case

Black tried this same **** and he ate a ban for it, we're not baby sitting you kids, use your head. Zkiller ate a ban a couple days ago for this same thing, don't like it? deal with it. You know the rules start following them

Zkiller got banned for killing a bunch of people in a partymultiple times while his PARTY member reap did the same **** thats why he ate a ban. Jeebs had no right or authority to issue a ban warning onme in any way shape or form.i stopped and made this thread to be ncie and call this into the open.

deylin was not involved in any party Pk she killed only 3 people the ban on her was unjust as well but ill let her speak in her own defense she has words and ismore than capable im here to try and get gaku to see you ****ing admins do abuse your power in this war and it needs to stop.

by the way do not try and compare us to zkilleror black there bans were nothing like ours i was their for theirs good try though.

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Nolynn Theoden wrote:

My kills were 3 on Reap,

Couldn't have said it any better myself



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Darlute wrote:

Nolynn Theoden wrote:

My kills were 3 on Reap,

Couldn't have said it any better myself

Yeah. My THREE KILLS, FOUR is over the rule.

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Tea wrote:

An admin doesn't need to be neutral to do his job. I'm sure Dean has warned/banned people and he's on your side, that doesn't make him abusing.
Jeebs wasn't threatenning, he was warning BOTH sides to stop, because he wasn't there to see who was killing who.

dean has banned 1 person on their side for spam killing and 1 on ours. he doesnt abuse it like jeebs does. and if he doesnt know whats goin then he shouldnt be warning bans. if spam killing is going on there are procedures for it such as SS it and reporting not having admins go "look i have powers lets abuse to stop players from being ableto pvp"

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Nolynn Theoden wrote:

Yeah. My THREE KILLS, FOUR is over the rule.

Your aware he was killed more than three times yes?

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From Nolynn: My kills were 3 on Reap, 1 on Sasha, 2 on the no name Fighter, 1 on Tiplet, and 1 on Deminshi.

From Tyrael: deylin was not involved in any party Pk she killed only 3 people the

Could you guys at least keep your story straight?

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It sounds like you have a strong case! Instead of whining and trying to remove the admins (that never works - see Locke and my ban) try to repel your ban! If you stick to the system I'm sure justice will be on your side! :D

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Darlute wrote:

Nolynn Theoden wrote:

Yeah. My THREE KILLS, FOUR is over the rule.

Your aware he was killed more than three times yes?

No. Like I said I logged on halfway through when there was PvP going on in Argo.

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So by your standards for spam killing, you could have infinite amount of griefing on someone.

Player A kills Player B 3 times.
Player C logs in unaware, kills Player B 3 times.
Player D logs in also unaware, and the cycle continues.

See where I'm going with this? You have to look at it from both perspectives. Don't automatically assume you were in the right and they were abusing.

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And after the warning you proceeded to kill him again because "i wasnt in a party". You clearly know the rules better than that
Youre really not helping your case here madam, instead of just making things worse for yourself just take your day of ban and have "nice dayz"

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Haze wrote:

So by your standards for spam killing, you could have infinite amount of griefing on someone.

Player A kills Player B 3 times.
Player C logs in unaware, kills Player B 3 times.
Player D logs in also unaware, and the cycle continues.

See where I'm going with this? You have to look at it from both perspectives. Don't automatically assume you were in the right and they were abusing.

Then player B should not have been killing the other said players and fighting in the war. you cannot expect players to be killed by people and not fight back.

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Darlute wrote:

And after the warning you proceeded to kill him again because "i wasnt in a party". You clearly know the rules better than that
Youre really not helping your case here madam, instead of just making things worse for yourself just take your day of ban and have "nice dayz"

she knows the rules and so do you thats why she should not have been banned but as i said thats not my issue and when i said "she killed 3 people" i meant "she only killed 1 person 3 times" as i said do not quote me on the issue i wont go into that im referring to mine here.

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Cea wrote:

It sounds like you have a strong case! Instead of whining and trying to remove the admins (that never works - see Locke and my ban) try to repel your ban! If you stick to the system I'm sure justice will be on your side! :D

I dont want admins removed. did i say remove the admins> I said please stop abusing your powers when you dont know whats going on or you know its not spam killing.

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Darlute wrote:

And after the warning you proceeded to kill him again because "i wasnt in a party". You clearly know the rules better than that
Youre really not helping your case here madam, instead of just making things worse for yourself just take your day of ban and have "nice dayz"

The warning came after I had killed Reap twice. I decided to be a good sport and not kill Reap right after I had saw him again even after he tried to troll me into attacking him another time. I only killed him my THIRD TIME after he had hostiled against me and Tyr.

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But tyrael...he was clearly killed about 5 or 6 times by your black panther team. You were given a warning by Jeebs and it should've been left at that, but hey Deylin sure believes she has a 3 pk limit, party or not

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