Darlute wrote:

Nolynn Theoden wrote:

Yeah. My THREE KILLS, FOUR is over the rule.

Your aware he was killed more than three times yes?

there is no rule agaisnta single player being killed more than 3 times by INDIVDUAL PAYERS. the rules states "If a player is not fighting back and you continue to keep up the killing the next hour (up to six kills in two hours), this will also count as spam-killing and will not be tolerated." you meaning singularif the rulesneed changed then change them THEN enforce them.

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To be honest. I try to be fair and I try to look at both sides.

I don't care if you just logged in. You and Deylin are allies. You talk on Skype to her all the time do you not? I don't care if you just logged on, you clearly saw my message.

Also, my track record shows that I actually listen to most people and what did I do just now? I've only given out a warning, ban.

The only bans I've even given out too was Sai because he asked me too. Dean can check the logs if you'd like because it clearly shows what's what.

I don't see why your slandering me, because me threatening to ban you is not an actual ban. Remember this, you are 1 person out of what 30 who actually play FFO on a daily basis, remember that I admin every day and I try to make the game accessible to "everyone" not just you or people who like to troll the game and PK for fun.

Going off topic now:

Now Argo is one place that is hard to enforce. I'm not here to watch your every move and to play fairly with people. Seeing as how Tristram is now decontructed because the owners don't feel like defending it makes the neutral port of Argo a place filled with criminals who mainly just kill people inside for what luls? Yes, that's cool and all, but my only concern is to make the game "playable" to an extent for everyone not just for it to be fun just for a select few.

Another thing is this. If you are a vet to the game, know the rules, and or mechanics I know when I see people just ruining others gameplay. PvP is meant to be fun, not for people to be griefed. I don't know when, where, or why this attitude of being a troll is cool. I know it may be fun at times, and yes I do it too, only on rare occasions and to people who know im kidding around. Yet o constantly whine *****, and moan about not having your way is really irritating and if you can't play well with your peers then you don't deserve to play the game.

Remember even though PvP is a major aspect of FFO. It is not the only one. If I recall it is/was supposed to be about cool domain/kingdom warfare. This is not Call of Duty.








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Nolynn Theoden wrote:

The warning came after I had killed Reap twice. I decided to be a good sport and not kill Reap right after I had saw him again even after he tried to troll me into attacking him another time. I only killed him my THIRD TIME after he had hostiled against me and Tyr.

Ok so explain the other deaths?

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Darlute wrote:

But tyrael...he was clearly killed about 5 or 6 times by your black panther team. You were given a warning by Jeebs and it should've been left at that, but hey Deylin sure believes she has a 3 pk limit, party or not

we had no team or party killing him. I killed him once and dey killed him 3 times its not against the rules and she didnt kill him until he attacked me in town.

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jeebs i admire you trying to protect players from griefing other players i udnerstand and admire that. but you cannot try and enforce your rules onto ffo there are existing rules for this kind of thing and if you think they needs fixed then talk to gaku and change them then fine but for now no such rules exist and you enforcing unofficial rules made by you is unfair and makes playing this game slightly unplayable in itself.

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JebusLuvsEverone wrote:

To be honest. I try to be fair and I try to look at both sides.

I don't care if you just logged in. You and Deylin are allies. You talk on Skype to her all the time do you not? I don't care if you just logged on, you clearly saw my message.

Also, my track record shows that I actually listen to most people and what did I do just now? I've only given out a warning, ban.

The only bans I've even given out too was Sai because he asked me too. Dean can check the logs if you'd like because it clearly shows what's what.

I don't see why your slandering me, because me threatening to ban you is not an actual ban. Remember this, you are 1 person out of what 30 who actually play FFO on a daily basis, remember that I admin every day and I try to make the game accessible to "everyone" not just you or people who like to troll the game and PK for fun.

Going off topic now:

Now Argo is one place that is hard to enforce. I'm not here to watch your every move and to play fairly with people. Seeing as how Tristram is now decontructed because the owners don't feel like defending it makes the neutral port of Argo a place filled with criminals who mainly just kill people inside for what luls? Yes, that's cool and all, but my only concern is to make the game "playable" to an extent for everyone not just for it to be fun just for a select few.

Another thing is this. If you are a vet to the game, know the rules, and or mechanics I know when I see people just ruining others gameplay. PvP is meant to be fun, not for people to be griefed. I don't know when, where, or why this attitude of being a troll is cool. I know it may be fun at times, and yes I do it too, only on rare occasions and to people who know im kidding around. Yet o constantly whine *****, and moan about not having your way is really irritating and if you can't play well with your peers then you don't deserve to play the game.

Remember even though PvP is a major aspect of FFO. It is not the only one. If I recall it is/was supposed to be about cool domain/kingdom warfare. This is not Call of Duty.

Do not bring the deconstruction of Tristram into this topic, we had our reasons for deconstructing it and 'not wanting to defend it anymore' is not one of them. Thanks.

I wasn't even in the skype call when I had logged into FFO but I have no way to prove that. I had only gotten into the skype call to talk to Dean and Tyr about this just about 20 minutes ago.

I had seen Sasha in New Banian so I killed her. Killed Fighter at New Banian docks. Went back to Argo, killed Reap because he was on the 'other side'. Killed him again just because I could because I know the spam kill rule. Then the warning came so I left him alone until he hostiled Tyrael, like I said.

I was not in the party. I was unaware of things going on. Just because I am on the other side of the war, that means I am not deemed the same 3 PK rule to you guys and that is complete bull**** abuse from the admins. Just like cancelling Dean's reboot to help fix the lag because it "gave unfair advantages to the other side of the war" is as well.

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and on another note jeebs. you said "I only warned to ban you if you killed another person" well my friend thats still threatening a unwarranted ban. You threatening to ban me fora unwarranted reason is stopping a player in this gamefrom PvPing and therefor preventing a player to play the game. is it not?

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Just so you know, I cancel reboots all the time, particularly now that I'm on a very slow computer and the game often sees fit to reboot faster than I can compile, transfer, and prep the game files, especially if I get a compilation error (several minutes down the drain).

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Yes that is understandable Gaku but Darlute/Jeebs had actually asayed that they were canceling the reboot because they felt that the reboot was giving "our side unfair advantages", same exact words.


I apologize but this has been corrected for real accuracy now.

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Unfortunately I was in the shower and missed this fiasco by about ten minutes.

If in fact Nolynn did log in after the killing took place and was unaware of and previous PKing that took place I don't really think that a ban was warranted.

I would hope that we as admins can get along with each other to a degree and not allow in-game politics to interfere with our judgement or interaction with each other.

In the past few days I've been verbally reprimanded over asay in regards to decisions I have made such as rebooting the server. I don't think that we as admins should behave in such a manner.

I can't prove anything but I do suspect that my fellow admins may have been p-pwiping characters they play with in order to remove death sickness during domain warfare.

I'd just like it if we could all get on the same boat as far as backing each other up and not allowing personal vendettas to interfere with us enforcing the rules to keep the game running smoothly.

I won't remove the ban because I'm not going to try and go over the other admins but I hope that you guys can resolve this amicably and without making Gaku rage more than I do.

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No, it was more like "Please refrain from rebooting to gain unfair advantages" -jeebs.

Basicaly accusing us all of cheating and doing things we arent supposed to be doing. Which I do not appreciate being accused of.

I dont understand what unfair advantage can be gained from a reboot, and I dont understand what disadvantage can be given to soemone else because of a reboot considering you were given a 15 minute warning to get whatever you are currnetly engaged in finished.

Its pretty petty to be canceling another admins reboot just because you're on opposing sides on a war. There was plenty of lag and was quite apparent to anyone who was not sitting away in a town.

I dont feel any lag so im cancelling the reboot is a ****thank you excuse, I dont care who you are.

Edit: This happened yesterday, just in case anyone is wondering.

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It's why I'm only giving her a days worth of ban, I dont know what exactly happened but I do know reap was dying like a bagillion times so instead of giving her the usual 1 week ban I made it a day and just a keyban

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I'll refer to your group of what is it 8-10 people, "NEO".

If you want to talk about the topic of the reboot yesterday. Here goes. It was around what 6-7pm when, NEO went to go train at Ember Whyrms. Now at the same time I was training at the WT with two party members. I personally did not experience any lag and the game was playable.

I personally only reboot if the game is near unplayable or during times in which barely anyone is online. So to have a reboot that comes just when NEO is training at the dragons (which I could care less) and I've been hearing complaints that it was only done so to "refresh spawns"

Now I didn't call for the reboot and neither did so the next person who did do it would be Dean. At first it was a 15 minute reboot that was canceled by Darlute. Seeing as how the other two admins did not agree for a reboot, there was all of a sudden a 1 minute reboot, that was really unable to be stopped.

I made the asay annoucement because I felt that the reboot was not really justified and I personally did not feel the effects of lag, or was the game unplayable. The other reason was this, and sorry to call names about but Blossom either jokingly saying so or not said on TRC that they called the reboot because spawns were dead.

I talked to Dean after the incident and we settled the matter professionally. Even though me and Dean occasionally butt heads, we can agree about certain things. All im saying is that Dean's desicion to do a reboot at that very moment in time was very controversial and I'd like to keep controversy to a minimum please.







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If you dont know exactly what was happening darlute, you shouldnt be issuing a ban anyway.

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Yeah well, for your information, we werent anywhere near the dragons den when this issue occured. and going on heresay without doing any investigation on your own is pretty bad adminship as well.

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Magnus Gallant wrote:

If you dont know exactly what was happening darlute, you shouldnt be issuing a ban anyway.

I agree probably shouldn't. but when we have jeebs announce what he did and then deylin saying she can kill so and so more times because she's not in a party leads me to believe spam killing did in fact happen. If not her then who because Reap did indeed die 5 times and deylin got the last kill on him

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i thought this game was built for and around pvp? really now days worth of ban for something *** like "spam killing" is not worth it. Not even one day. Especially for the fact that it's a first offense.

Seriously i've been around this game since closed-testing and have seen much worse cases than this.

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Darlute wrote:

Magnus Gallant wrote:

If you dont know exactly what was happening darlute, you shouldnt be issuing a ban anyway.

I agree probably shouldn't. but when we have jeebs announce what he did and then deylin saying she can kill so and so more times because she's not in a party leads me to believe spam killing did in fact happen. If not her then who because Reap did indeed die 5 times and deylin got the last kill on him

dey killed reap 3 times, I killed him once, i dont know of any other kills on him

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so she gets banned just because she got the last kill? From what i heard he hostiled them, so what now your not allowed to defend yourself?

And if another admin is already handling the issue and you dont know what is going on, shouldt logic dictate you let the other admin finish handling it?

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Magnus Gallant wrote:

so she gets banned just because she got the last kill? From what i heard he hostiled them, so what now your not allowed to defend yourself?

And if another admin is already handling the issue and you dont know what is going on, shouldt logic dictate you let the other admin finish handling it?

Do you have any screenshot? And let me remind you that Zkiller was banned recently for getting the last kill.

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