@dean

Buddies* and actually I didn't go past the limit I would love to see those ss's cause that's some faulty bs. Tyrael even came up to me and said "do you wanna kill me one more time to make it EXCESSIVE spam killing". So I think your wrong broski.

@ magnus it was my first offense just like iwa and reap this was awhile back.

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reply to Guy:

Marcus created this topic. You, however, have adapted a typing style that is noticeably different from Marcus', from his usual fragments and occasional correct grammar when srsfaec to your obnoxious run-on sentences. This extreme shift in typing either means you are Marcus and you have had an extreme shift in emotion since the beginning of this topic, or you started using Marcus' key to post for him.

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Shane why don't you give up on over thinking things and just make a post relevant to the topic.

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Yes I honestly beleive there is nothing wrong with current admin team. Well except for the inactivity of half of them (sinsie, darlute).

its a FAR improvement over the last admin we had. Who just ****ing banned people cuz "they were bad for the game" when one of said people was banned during a period of time in which he had not had access to the internet. Or the "I have adjunct admins, but I don't really need them cuz I'm a power tripping mad man, and I'm gunna do whatever I want and not listen to them even though I know they're right and go over their heads and do it anyway"

Peronally I find a re election is pointless since honestly there is no one else around here fit for an admin position anyway.

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Personally I think a re-election would be good for the game, and anyone would be better then dean at this point, with the exception of tyrael.

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Dean does a fine job. You're just upset because he banned you. No one else who has been banned by him has *****ed this much.

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i'm not mad at all haha, it's just sad that your saying he does a good job when I clearly just stated a time where he treated me differently then someone else for no real reason.

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Firstly you just contradicted yourself with that first paragraph, a Direct "Yes" doesent usually involve Exept.

And, sure it was an improvement, for a while that is. The whole system eventually showed how rotten it had gotten and and "There's always room for improvement". We can take what we learned from these current admins and apply it to a new system of administration. The last system was for the players and by the players, but is slowly changed to the admins doing what ever they want, the players have no say , and they have proved that we have absolutely no say and that it's all up to their opinion, hell Jeebs might not be saying anything right now but I'm sure he'd agree along those lines.

And whether you personally find a re-election pointless, not everyone else does. This is a discussion for everyone, not for just you, so instead of giving the whole "Because no one around here is fit" crap , Because we've all heard it before at some point, and that's pretty much just giving up on bettering things overall. why not look for "Who is the most fit out of the unfit" considering your point of view on this.

"Dean does a fine job. You're just upset because he banned you. No one else who has been banned by him has *****ed this much."
Marcus being banned is just an example of how corrupt the system is. The only reason Marcus even was viewed as a problem by most of the people that view him as such, was because he was the only one willing to stand up and say change was neccesary, and act apon it, some people supported him quietly, but then there were the people who pretty much mooched under the admins earning brownie points by kissing ass.

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honestly? you only claim sinsie/darlute to be inactive? dean is never on the game to monitor it, and jeebs isnt even on much at all

anyway, is the administrative staff is doing such an amazing job and not doing anything corrupt or biased why do you fight a re-election so badly?

if an admin has done his job as he should, providing ss' when banning someone and proof has been given, giving topics about a ban and why instead of trying to ban under the radar and ****

then why should these good admins or whatever fight a re-election? the bad ones would get voted the **** out and the good ones could get re-elected, there is no loss if an admin is doing his damn job

ya'll just know that dean has been doin your dirty work for like ever, and has been the most biased admin so far

and ya'll dont wanna lose your almighty banhammer :l

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Oh another little bit of evidence of dean doing his job so well. Why was shatter unbanned half way through his ban? Oh maybe because someone realized that he had nothing to do with it and he was banned unjustly.

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reply to Po:

And that is my point exactly. If someone is proud in the positive changes they've made as a person in a position of power, when re-election time comes, they should have absolute faith that they've done a good enough job to get re-elected, there should be no shame in their game.


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Dear Marcus,

Prove that we're being bad admins. With evidence. Proof.

In fact, everyone should do this. If you're having a tough time with the administration and think something's wrong, prove it, post it publicly so we admins have to answer to it. It gets things going.

I know this is incredibly obvious, but the reason I'm posting it directly to you is because you don't have any. You just want to play a power-struggle game with us, and after months and months of this, it's getting annoying.

And concerning me, life's given me a lot to handle and I have about two weeks left of it until my schedule's really flexible like I prefer it once again. I never worried about it because I figured little administration was more preferable to major administration anyways from what we've seen in the past.

But seriously, if things are getting bad, prove it. Otherwise, stop being so obsessed and either clean up your act or straighten out your life, rasa.

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I brought up two things about dean, thats enough evidence for me to be satisfied, sinsie you do your job fine as far as i'm concerned.

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No one needs to prove that you're bad admins, You've already proved how corrupt you are.

But yes, talking to people behind the scenes usually show whats really lurking in the shadows.

Discussion of You in particular sinsie, abusing your position of power to unban Marcus so people to retrieve items off of his character is a fine case. to my knowledge that whole matter wasent really deliberated, but you still considered it.

Not only that, but there was an incident where you banned marcus for killing your in game character while you were role playing in game in the game, typing. You had no other presented excuse at the time. Not only that but the lack of communication that's obvious among the whole game, among you admins is generally your problem, and you dont even try to fix it, or resolve it. There were points in Time as well, when Dean would refuse to go to the other admins to resolve issues as well, because he knew You and David wouldn't go for it, so he just went ahead and did it anyways, considering you were inactive, and David couldnt fight the issue alone, and Jeebs figured it'd resolve its self.

And again, if you honestly dont think you've done anything wrong, then why not be okay with the election? When it all comes down to it, this isint a case aganst marcus, this is a case aganst you guys not wanting to lose your power, We dont need tyrants in power, so when election time comes they will be ousted.


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The only reason that there weren't any **** up the forums topics before is because no one was getting banned. And now that everyone is getting banned everyone is like "WAHHH THINGS ARE HAPPENING WE DONT LIKE IT. WAHHHH RULES THERE ARE RULES??????"

And Marcus get off of you self righteous streak. If by standing up and asking for change you mean logging in one day out of the blue and revoking an entire factions of players custom icons then sure. Otherwise it was just "I'm pissed because no one gave me the answers I like via msn, so I'm gunna log on a game and abuse my powers to lessen the game play experience of people who wronged me" Dont you even try to claim your speaking out for change when it was Blatantly obvious you only removed one sides icons and not the entire games.

Yah sure sinsie is doing a fine job because HE ISN'T HERE TO DO ANYTHING. (sinsie this really isnt a peronaly attack on you, its just to stress a point. Take care of your stuff man and good luck)

And I'm well aware that this is for discussion of everyone. And I am part of everyone so I'm prefectly allowed to voice my opinion as well, so get off my **** marcus and go be butthurt elsewhere.


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@Ace

That's called hearsay not evidence.

The time you were originally banned I caught you red-handed. You killed someone twice over the limit within an hour and Reap killed someone once over the limit. Therefore your punishment was twice as long as his. You were also informed that you were spamkilling during the incident by Tyrael and instead of heeding his advice to stop you argued that you 'knew the rules' and continued the pk spree.





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So magnus avoids the real discussion with making the topic about marcus, and people crying somehow. Instead of talking about the points brought up. Actually buddy I wasn't informed during, post the ss's dean or your word is as corrupt as you. Without evidence it's hearsay and you have the evidence.

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To my knowledge there are topics currently here in Guides and Moderation where people feel cheated under the current system of moderation. To my knowledge other people have posted in this post agreeing that change is neccesary. Marcus is not the only one that feels this way, and this post has only been up a single night, give other people a time to see this post so they can comment and we can see what everyone really thinks. You're not the only one entitled to an opinion, regardless on how strongly you feel. Some of us may feel stronger, its just easier for you to sit on your high horse and say nothing's wrong because you arent the one being screwed. It's Harder to stand up, and scream to get your point across when your words fall on deaf ears and no one is willing to listen or do anything about it.

And considering sinsies situation, maybe his situation means hes not currently fit to be an admin, there are more active and present people willing to do the job. I'm not being insensitive or anything, but that's the blunt truth.
We dont really need someone willing to do their job occassionally compared to consistantly, Because in the real world, he'd have been fired by now.



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this is my last post before bed, but once again im going STRESS A POINT IN CAPS CAUSE THAT MAKES IT SEEM LIKE ITS IMPORTANT

IF ADMINS HAVE BEEN DOING THEIR JOB FINE THEN THEY SHOULDNT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT NOT GETTING RE-ELECTED

now i was pretty sure admins when banning someone were supposed to provide a topic containing the reason for the ban proof and ban duration, and also i would like to have an admin team that COMMUNICATES WITH EACH OTHER BEFORE JUST THROWING THE BANHAMMER AROUND

1 admin can ban someone if none others are on, but if the others review the play and majority wants it changed, then, THEIR WASNT A FUMBLE ON THE FIELD

or you know, can actually show this so called "proof" that they have when questioned about it, instead of just calling the community incompetant or ignorant

when a ban is issued without proof by a single admin, only claiming proof, but not showing it, and when questioned the admin just trolls/flames the players, THATS SEEMS DAMN CORRUPT TO ME

herp derp

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No, in the real world he'd be re-elected by the Republicans.

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