I JUST said something calmly. It was 100% serious. And as usual, you ignored it and just went for personal attacks yet again. It may be my opinion that I don't like you, but that doesn't even matter. Who cares if I dislike you? Hell, I don't even care. I'm talking about what matters. And what matters is that you ignore everything and only attack people.

This is just getting old, Locke. You're ignoring everything everyone tries to say, every single time you don't like them.

Also, flaming doesn't make someone's opinion null and void. Look at people like you and Dean. You personally attack people all the time and consider your opinion God (which unfortunately is the case, aside from Gaku), and Dean just trolls a lot (well not lately, but he used to) and he's one of the main developers for Terulia.

I'm not asking you to listen to me. I'm asking you to listen to common sense and stop posting nonsense on a constant basis. (yea yea blahblah haze you post nonsense more etc that doesnt matter this isn't about me bro)

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This is just getting old, Locke. You're ignoring everything everyone tries to say, every single time you don't like them.

Also, flaming doesn't make someone's opinion null and void. Look at people like you and Dean. You personally attack people all the time and consider your opinion God (which unfortunately is the case, aside from Gaku), and Dean just trolls a lot (well not lately, but he used to) and he's one of the main developers for Terulia.

See this is why usually I don't respond to you. Your entire argument is "look you just do this" or "look you just do that" with no backup at all.

I address everything. Next.

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You addressed 2 posts in this thread. Both were to insult either me or someone else. How is that addressing the fact that Kaji is not a good admin? That she would constantly mess around with her positional powers when she was drunk? Or how her personality is just one ticking time bomb? Where did you ever address this? Where did you ever address the fact that most of your team agree with you/are buddies with you? You claimed before that you were going to bring in 3 people from different political standpoints of FFO/Terulia etc. Address THAT.

Next.

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I honestly dont think you're addressing anything in this topic. I haven't seen one person who agrees kaji should be admin. The community is angry, rather they like you or not, they do not like this choice. I love kaji to death, but I also know from the past how she could get. I will even admit back then I was upset when her admin status was taken away, but I know now that the anger was because I was her friend, not because she was a good admin. However, I remember you saying in the past how she abused and that is why took it away.

Here is the link to the old forums, it is discussed many times on why she should not be admin. http://z3.invisionfree.com/ffo/index.php?showtopic=10977

Locke, I know it is obvious I do not like you and do not like me, but please listen to the community. We're not a bunch of brainless whiners you seem to think we are. Our points are coming from our displeasure with your choices, not our hate for you. This is one of the many times you are closing your ears to us when you should be listening. There is something wrong with your adminship when so far 100% of us have told you we do not like this choice in an admin. If you are not listening to 100% displeasure with in the community, then there is something wrong with your adminship and how you see us.

Might I add, that you tell us that we think its only about us when we come forth with our complaints, but you often say we are saying this because we don’t like you. Most of the time Locke, you act like a self centered kid with power. (yes I know you’re gonna say you’re one to talk. Im not sayin Im any better)


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Kaji is an extremely poor choice for administrative responsibility, this has been highlighted many times in discussions regarding her needless use of admin powers, and she has frequently divulged to myself and others that she is terribly unfit for the job.

She has a severe mood disorder she speaks openly of, and has many times admitted that this mood disorder affects the way she acts and reacts in FFO. She has repeatedly cited FFO as a source of great stress for her and something she should best stay away from since thanks to her disorders, she is unable to keep from becoming unhealthily overly engaged in game matters.

She has a poor history and a self admitted inability to set aside her personal biases and stresses when making decisions.

Why is it then that she has been chosen for a leadership position?

In this topic several voices that are frequently at war with each other, from every spectrum of the game, are unanimous in protest against this decision. Even Cea, Dean, and Lumino are all three agreed on this issue, that should tell you leagues.

Locke, I humbly and formally request on behalf of the entire playerbase that you reconsider the wisdom of this decision and pick someone who is decidedly more fitted for in game responsibility and power to fill this fourth slot.

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Double posting because this old post by LOCKE seems relevant.

Its not. You guys should know by now that I don't lock or mod topics about me, even as negative as they can get.

Let's see.

- I've had to bug her multiple times about stuff shes done without telling me or Emma, and things shes done that I've made it clear admins should discuss with each other before they do.
- She ripped someone else's icon without permission, recolored it, and put it in the game just to give someone a placeholder icon so they could get their icon in before the pwipe. Then when I told her it was wrong she tried to defend it for awhile, with multiple excuses. Its not only blatantly violating the icon rules, but its doing it for a purpose that is more or less cheating the system.
-I don't believe Kaji to be stable enough for an admin position. Shes too nice for the community. I think it drives her insane sometimes, and if someone is stressed enough to make bad decisions like that, I don't want her to be in a position.
-I also didn't remove her. I told her I didn't want her as an admin and she removed herself.
-I have nothing personally against Kaji. Its going to be difficult to find the right person to replace her, if anyone. She had a couple of important jobs and did a lot of work, but that doesn't justify the stuff listed above.


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Ok minus the flames, minus everything else, all I want to see is an actual thought process behind appointing Kaji.

No flames, no whining, no *****ing. I think that is all any of us want to start with.

Can you do at least that for us?

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Why'd you even coax her into taking an admin position? She didn't want anything to do with FFO in the first place.

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Why a fourth at all? Kind of goes against the "balance" we wanted with the adjunct admins. Now if the need for a vote arose there could be a tie. Guess we should hire a fifth. Anyone know some one who doesn't play anymore that'd be interested in admin?

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There are 5 admins now.

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MagnusGallant wrote:

There are 5 admins now.

No. There are four adjunct admins and one head admin.

There is a huge difference.

At least with how you knuckle heads CLAIM the system works.

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It doesn't really matter, There is still 5. Now your just picking to pick. There are 5, there will be no ties or imbalances or w/e the hell you decide to call it this week.

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MagnusGallant wrote:

It doesn't really matter, There is still 5. Now your just picking to pick. There are 5, there will be no ties or imbalances or w/e the hell you decide to call it this week.

Magnus you clearly don't get how the admin system is supposed to work. This is slightly surprising since you ARE an admin.

Let me break it down.
Adjunct Admins. These guys play the game and watch the game and such. Reports of abuse and what not go to these people. They meet together. Discuss what needs to be done. Then they take a vote and impliment it.

Head Admin. This guy watches over the Adjunct Admins. He himself doesn't actually have to do much moderation. His job to is to watch the adjuncts and make sure they stay in line and do their job right.

Gakumerasara. He codes the game and should never hear a whisper or peep of abuse or what have you. He should only have to step in on very serious things.

Do you see the problem, sir? No? Well let me explain.

Four adjunct admins. Read back to their job. They talk they vote. What do you do when there is a tie? Now you've got the Head Admin coming to do tie breakers and it ultimately just becomes the Head Admin's word, making Adjunct Admins an unnecessary step.

If you would like me to clarify anything else about your job just ask me, bro.

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It only becomes the head Admin's problem when a tie comes up. Which, if a decision is that controversial, it probably should. Let's face it, in a clear cut situation, you aren't going to have a 2v2 tie.

And if you do, the head admin is the tie breaker. Seems fine to me.

At any rate, I still think we at least deserve an idea 'why' the appointment was made.

And if it is for the reason I am suspecting, I'd really have to shake Locke's hand.

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Lumino wrote:

It only becomes the head Admin's problem when a tie comes up. Which, if a decision is that controversial, it probably should. Let's face it, in a clear cut situation, you aren't going to have a 2v2 tie.

And if you do, the head admin is the tie breaker. Seems fine to me.

At any rate, I still think we at least deserve an idea 'why' the appointment was made.

And if it is for the reason I am suspecting, I'd really have to shake Locke's hand.

what are you suspecting? im curious.

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Zekion wrote:

Stellarific wrote:

Lumino wrote:

It only becomes the head Admin's problem when a tie comes up. Which, if a decision is that controversial, it probably should. Let's face it, in a clear cut situation, you aren't going to have a 2v2 tie.

And if you do, the head admin is the tie breaker. Seems fine to me.

At any rate, I still think we at least deserve an idea 'why' the appointment was made.

And if it is for the reason I am suspecting, I'd really have to shake Locke's hand.

what are you suspecting? im curious.

To make all the cool people quit ffo.

well if that's the case, that's not very good adminship there.

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In all honesty I would also like to know why a fourth admin was appointed. Seems like the 3 we have now currently play the game enough to know whats going on. There hasnt been a situation where a fourth was absolutly needed and in all serious ( I only play in the mornings and afternoons) but I have not seen her on in a long time.

Obviously the community will always have a problem with someone being appointed admin, whether me, a past abuser, a new player, or whatever it will always be a bad idea(there might be like 3 people everyone agrees with) but someone will always agree or disagree. Now it seems noone here agrees with this at all which will intern lead to major fights with admins and her in a ban situation.

I dont see the point in this, though I do undertand that you are the admins your decisions are final. But in something like wow 100 people can quit and its nothing. If 10 quit on here its going to be very devastating.


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Stat wrote:

In all honesty I would also like to know why a fourth admin was appointed. Seems like the 3 we have now currently play the game enough to know whats going on. There hasnt been a situation where a fourth was absolutly needed and in all serious ( I only play in the mornings and afternoons) but I have not seen her on in a long time.

Obviously the community will always have a problem with someone being appointed admin, whether me, a past abuser, a new player, or whatever it will always be a bad idea(there might be like 3 people everyone agrees with) but someone will always agree or disagree. Now it seems noone here agrees with this at all which will intern lead to major fights with admins and her in a ban situation.

I dont see the point in this, though I do undertand that you are the admins your decisions are final. But in something like wow 100 people can quit and its nothing. If 10 quit on here its going to be very devastating.

you know whats funny here, is that we have now four adjunct admins, none of them have came foreward to tell us why, accept enn to tell us stop *****ing locke and gaku will never listen, and magnus to tell us its now an equal system (clearly none is the right answer) Locke is being Locke, avoiding logical posts because he thinks him saying 'i dont have to answer none of you' is the right answer, and gaku, whom ive seen multiple times look at this topic has not either answered our question. My point is, we now have so many people working for the greater good (in their minds) of this game, and not one of them can give us a good answer to why kaji of all people was appoionted admin.

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As Locke is head admin, I'm leaving this issue up to him.


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