Army units can one shot players?

o_o

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Of course they can. where have you been?

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Let's all ignore Locke's idea which is probably the one in this topic that has more than a snowball's chance of hell of getting in.

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MagnusGallant wrote:

Of course they can. where have you been?

Umm I don't know, not being one shotted by army units?
Maybe you guys shouldn't try to take an entire army with a few level 20 characters. The army scales with level cap because it's assumed to take a CITY with an ARMY you'd have a GROUP of very STRONG PLAYERS.

I tanked a captain and many rangers when taking Leamaia just fine so I think this is a personal problem on your guys's half.

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This totally segregates lower level characters from domain warfare.

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Dean wrote:

This totally segregates lower level characters from domain warfare.

I'm preeeeety sure gaku has stated numerous times that the point of FFO is to LEVEL UP and PROF so that you could get STRONG ENOUGH to participate in domain warfare.

LEVEL UP and PROF to get STRONG ENOUGH to participate.

LEVEL UP and PROF to get STRONG.

LEVEL UP and PROF.

LEVEL UP.

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Dean wrote:

This totally segregates lower level characters from domain warfare.

Good point a level 20 BW should be able to make the several million gold put into a domain worthless.

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That doesn't mean the system doesn't suck.

The strongest get stronger, the newcomers have to struggle to get to a point where they can compete at all.

It doesn't work.
Pwipes only temporarily resolve the issue.

Players have a hard enough time competing with people who are able to pour a lot of time and energy into their characters.

The army shouldn't be another mountain of an obstacle, especially since it's quite obvious that the stronger players are going to be the ones running and populating the domains.

That's pitting ridiculous odds against people.

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An army is only AGAINST a player if the PLAYER makes it that way.

It's all about choices. You need consequences for actions.

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Thinks are too much in favor of domain lords.

You have to think of it from both sides of the coin.

I understand that resources are a pain in the ass to gather.
I understand that army units are costly.
I understand that if you manage a domain you don't want to see it easily smashed.

On the other side

I understand that the army units are overly strong.
I understand that an army can be pretty self sufficient (requiring no little to no player backup in a lot of instances) to defend itself and the domain.
I understand that as the system is now, domain warfare is really only viable if you are capped out (see army stats+player stats)

Right now, all the odds are in favor of those running the domains.

Shouldn't be this way.

I don't really think it's abusive to lure mobs and use tactics in domain warfare, since using brute force isn't the best course of action and shouldn't be the required course of action. I do agree that using dragons is a bit unfair, given the power of the dragons.

There's not much option left for the opposition.
You don't really care about the opposition.
You care about you and yours.

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Cea wrote:

An army is only AGAINST a player if the PLAYER makes it that way.

It's all about choices. You need consequences for actions.

Also, not so. Certain domain leaders may outlaw someone simply because they don't like them.

Edit: This also goes both ways Cea m'boy.
If someone decides they wanna take over every domain in the game, they should be subject to opposition.

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Dean wrote:

Cea wrote:

An army is only AGAINST a player if the PLAYER makes it that way.

It's all about choices. You need consequences for actions.

Also, not so. Certain domain leaders may outlaw someone simply because they don't like them.

Edit: This also goes both ways Cea m'boy.
If someone decides they wanna take over every domain in the game, they should be subject to opposition.

I'm outlawed in every Vorgardia domain for disagreeing with Cea and not letting him be an admin.

There's not much I could do about that.

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Locke wrote:

Dean wrote:

Cea wrote:

An army is only AGAINST a player if the PLAYER makes it that way.

It's all about choices. You need consequences for actions.

Also, not so. Certain domain leaders may outlaw someone simply because they don't like them.

Edit: This also goes both ways Cea m'boy.
If someone decides they wanna take over every domain in the game, they should be subject to opposition.

I'm outlawed in every Vorgardia domain for disagreeing with Cea and not letting him be an admin.

There's not much I could do about that.

haha you really think that's why?

Oh brother.

And Dean, your point still isn't that good. It's a domain lord's right to outlaw people for stuff. Again, the player obviously did something wrong so they made it their problem.

And again, how is that an issue if a person is outlawed in A domain? You are trying to make it a point because I own all domains, so that's not really that good a point.

I'll address your other points later I'm busy just had to laugh at locke's post

(it's not all about you locke)

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Trolling aside.

Does anyone find it kind of funny that, once again, dragons are a problem in the game? They aren't even trained on by ANYONE. For the love of god just remove them already, all they ever cause are endless headaches.

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Lumino wrote:

Trolling aside.

Does anyone find it kind of funny that, once again, dragons are a problem in the game? They aren't even trained on by ANYONE. For the love of god just remove them already, all they ever cause are endless headaches.

This is something I completely agree with and have said a thousand times before.

They are NEVER balanced and are ALWAYS an issue in one way or another.

edit: and why EEs but not dragons???

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Cea wrote:

Lumino wrote:

Trolling aside.

Does anyone find it kind of funny that, once again, dragons are a problem in the game? They aren't even trained on by ANYONE. For the love of god just remove them already, all they ever cause are endless headaches.

This is something I completely agree with and have said a thousand times before.

They are NEVER balanced and are ALWAYS an issue in one way or another.

edit: and why EEs but not dragons???

I believe the reason was that, while dragons were hard, EE's were easy and very simple to farm.

I said it before, words from Sarm himself. It is IMPOSSIBLE to balance a level 60 monster in a level 35 game. It is not going to work.

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My points are all valid.

Look at the army stats duder.

If you think that army stats with the rest of the mechanics are fine as is, and your only concern is with mobs being able to harm domain structure and army units, I'm afraid I can't value your input on this matter at all.



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Dean wrote:

My points are all valid.

Look at the army stats duder.

If you think that army stats with the rest of the mechanics are fine as is, and your only concern is with mobs being able to harm domain structure and army units, I'm afraid I can't value your input on this matter at all.

Har Har. Yes, I don't worry about you guys taking a domain. Because you guys aren't strong. I do worry about mobs because an army can't take a mob swarm.

If an army can take a bunch of players but not a mob swarm that's a point in itself.

You say look at both sides. But you yourself aren't man. Your side is the only side complaining about nerf army please. The rest of us have taken defended domains multiple times (defend meaning full army and several players).

Regardless, this isn't even a topic about nerf army please it's a topic about "Mobs and Domains". Says right in that there title.

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Cool level 1 flame bro. Hope you don't get blacklisted for that one.

Anyway, this is relevant to mobs and domains, which is why I included it in this discussion.

Using monsters to assist in taking domains is currently a viable option. I'm pointing out pros and cons from both sides and offering suggestions.



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How did I flame? Because I said you can't take a domain...? Really now...

And you're not really including mobs you're just saying the army is OP and you want it nerfed...

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