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Admins abusing should not to be allowed
Magnus Sforzando 12:42 AM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)

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I do not have a screen shot but im inclined to believe someone who has never been banned before, has been around plenty long enough to know the rules, and have like 3 or 4 other people who are collaborating her story.

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deanbad 12:45 AM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)

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Zkiller was in a party with Reap and they were both actively attacking in Argo. His particular case was black and white.

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Darlute 1:01 AM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)

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This is what I'm going on which led me to ban deylin
1. Warning by Jeebs
2. Deylin kills Reap regardless
3. I go to Argo to investigate and find Reap dead 1 square away from the staff shop which basically tells me he was killed before he even had a chance to run. Tyrael attacks me (jerk)
4. Reap logs off
all in that order

I don't know what happened in between but tyrael let me ask you a question, why were you outlawed if Reap hostiled you first? Somethings not making sense here and with Reaps death location and your outlawing and deylins nowhere to be seen prescense im just piecing the puzzle together.

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Huckey168 1:02 AM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)
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Darlute wrote:
Magnus Gallant wrote:
If you dont know exactly what was happening darlute, you shouldnt be issuing a ban anyway.
I agree probably shouldn't. but when we have jeebs announce what he did and then deylin saying she can kill so and so more times because she's not in a party leads me to believe spam killing did in fact happen. If not her then who because Reap did indeed die 5 times and deylin got the last kill on him


if you dont know whats going on youshould lift your ban otherwise your simply showing favor to another person and breaking the rules.

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Gakumerasara (main): So here are the effects to being mint's irl friend, circa 2010.
Gakumerasara (main): 1) +5% crit chance against you.
Gakumerasara (main): 2) +5% melee damage against you.
Gakumerasara (main): 3) -5% melee hit rate.
Gakumerasara (main): 4) -5% str, dex, mag.
Gakumerasara (main): 5) -10% agl, mgr, luck.
Gakumerasara (main): 6) +20% prof requirements.
Gakumerasara (main): 7) +25% armor damage against you.
Gakumerasara (main): That appears to be all
 
JeebsLuvsPie 1:06 AM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)

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Okay I'll make it clear.

Galano your right, in previous hostings it was a lot worse was it not? I'd actually prefer the game if there were no admins to be honest. There really is no need for them except the occasional rule break here and there. Regardless the rule is now there in place to try to prevent massive greifing.

As the rule stands it's 3 kills per hour. The thing that we as admins do it to try and improve the game by enforcing the rules regardless of who it is. It could have been a random passerby who wants to go and PK.

If you want to put things in perspective Reap and Deylin were living in Argo at the same time. Reap took IGH before the seige ended but ended up loosing it, thus he respawned in Argo.

Now, seeing as how Reap and Dey are both enemies what do you think will happen when they see each other? You got it, they will just PK each other till one leaves, logs off, or goes somewhere else completely.

I at the time was really going to go away but I get a message from Reap saying he was getting spam killed. I told him to send the pics to Darlute and he investigated it and I trust the other two admins, Dean included to make a fair decision.






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Magnus Sforzando 1:07 AM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)

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Again if you dont know what happened in between, Why are you banning someone. ISnt that why there are procedures ivolved such as gathering screeen shots, etc, before banning people?


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Huckey168 1:08 AM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)
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Darlute wrote:
This is what I'm going on which led me to ban deylin
1. Warning by Jeebs
2. Deylin kills Reap regardless
3. I go to Argo to investigate and find Reap dead 1 square away from the staff shop which basically tells me he was killed before he even had a chance to run. Tyrael attacks me (jerk)
4. Reap logs off
all in that order

I don't know what happened in between but tyrael let me ask you a question, why were you outlawed if Reap hostiled you first? Somethings not making sense here and with Reaps death location and your outlawing and deylins nowhere to be seen prescense im just piecing the puzzle together.


easy I logged in i killed a bm, got outlawed started running out of town, reap started chasing, charge GG. thats why i was outlawed and he was dead.

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Gakumerasara (main): So here are the effects to being mint's irl friend, circa 2010.
Gakumerasara (main): 1) +5% crit chance against you.
Gakumerasara (main): 2) +5% melee damage against you.
Gakumerasara (main): 3) -5% melee hit rate.
Gakumerasara (main): 4) -5% str, dex, mag.
Gakumerasara (main): 5) -10% agl, mgr, luck.
Gakumerasara (main): 6) +20% prof requirements.
Gakumerasara (main): 7) +25% armor damage against you.
Gakumerasara (main): That appears to be all
 
Huckey168 1:11 AM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)
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JebusLuvsEverone wrote:
Okay I'll make it clear.

Galano your right, in previous hostings it was a lot worse was it not? I'd actually prefer the game if there were no admins to be honest. There really is no need for them except the occasional rule break here and there. Regardless the rule is now there in place to try to prevent massive greifing.

As the rule stands it's 3 kills per hour. The thing that we as admins do it to try and improve the game by enforcing the rules regardless of who it is. It could have been a random passerby who wants to go and PK.

If you want to put things in perspective Reap and Deylin were living in Argo at the same time. Reap took IGH before the seige ended but ended up loosing it, thus he respawned in Argo.

Now, seeing as how Reap and Dey are both enemies what do you think will happen when they see each other? You got it, they will just PK each other till one leaves, logs off, or goes somewhere else completely.

I at the time was really going to go away but I get a message from Reap saying he was getting spam killed. I told him to send the pics to Darlute and he investigated it and I trust the other two admins, Dean included to make a fair decision.






Ok then thats fine my issue was with you warning a ban against me for1 kill.I udnerstand grieving is an assholemove but after all their assholemoves againstme i really think grieving is a bit of a slack excuse for a ban.

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Gakumerasara (main): So here are the effects to being mint's irl friend, circa 2010.
Gakumerasara (main): 1) +5% crit chance against you.
Gakumerasara (main): 2) +5% melee damage against you.
Gakumerasara (main): 3) -5% melee hit rate.
Gakumerasara (main): 4) -5% str, dex, mag.
Gakumerasara (main): 5) -10% agl, mgr, luck.
Gakumerasara (main): 6) +20% prof requirements.
Gakumerasara (main): 7) +25% armor damage against you.
Gakumerasara (main): That appears to be all
 
deanbad 1:13 AM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)

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I feel that there should have been clear evidence.

I don't issues bans without clear evidence personally.

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JeebsLuvsPie 1:13 AM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)

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Magnus Gallant wrote:
Again if you dont know what happened in between, Why are you banning someone. ISnt that why there are procedures ivolved such as gathering screeen shots, etc, before banning people?


Darlute received the SS's from Reap. Then the decision was made. I'm sure I've clearly stated my reasons for why the ban occurred. I won't be posting anymore after this. Good night and you'll feel better in the morning.



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Magnus Sforzando 1:16 AM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)

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If thats true, he shouldnt be posting " I dont know what was going on"

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JeebsLuvsPie 2:27 AM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)

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Deylin is now unbanned. The matter has been settled privately. Sorry for the commotion.



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Huckey168 3:26 AM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)
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JebusLuvsEverone wrote:
Deylin is now unbanned. The matter has been settled privately. Sorry for the commotion.



alright good. now pleasedo not threaten further banning without evidence to do so. thank you and have a nice day.

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Gakumerasara (main): So here are the effects to being mint's irl friend, circa 2010.
Gakumerasara (main): 1) +5% crit chance against you.
Gakumerasara (main): 2) +5% melee damage against you.
Gakumerasara (main): 3) -5% melee hit rate.
Gakumerasara (main): 4) -5% str, dex, mag.
Gakumerasara (main): 5) -10% agl, mgr, luck.
Gakumerasara (main): 6) +20% prof requirements.
Gakumerasara (main): 7) +25% armor damage against you.
Gakumerasara (main): That appears to be all
 
CL 9:57 AM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)
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Wtb admins that are actually neutral and don't actually participate in the PVP. That is the only way things will be unbiased really.

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Professor 9:59 AM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)

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JebusLuvsEverone wrote:
To be honest. I try to be fair and I try to look at both sides.

I don't care if you just logged in. You and Deylin are allies. You talk on Skype to her all the time do you not? I don't care if you just logged on, you clearly saw my message.

Also, my track record shows that I actually listen to most people and what did I do just now? I've only given out a warning, ban.

The only bans I've even given out too was Sai because he asked me too. Dean can check the logs if you'd like because it clearly shows what's what.

I don't see why your slandering me, because me threatening to ban you is not an actual ban. Remember this, you are 1 person out of what 30 who actually play FFO on a daily basis, remember that I admin every day and I try to make the game accessible to "everyone" not just you or people who like to troll the game and PK for fun.


Also this has already been dealt with so stop posting here.

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Reap 3:29 PM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)
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Nolynn Theoden wrote:
Darlute wrote:
And after the warning you proceeded to kill him again because "i wasnt in a party". You clearly know the rules better than that
Youre really not helping your case here madam, instead of just making things worse for yourself just take your day of ban and have "nice dayz"



The warning came after I had killed Reap twice. I decided to be a good sport and not kill Reap right after I had saw him again even after he tried to troll me into attacking him another time. I only killed him my THIRD TIME after he had hostiled against me and Tyr.

What? I tried to troll you into attacking me? I was trying to recover ds so i could do my bro's sage.

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Goddess 3:34 PM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)
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Reap wrote:
Nolynn Theoden wrote:
Darlute wrote:
And after the warning you proceeded to kill him again because "i wasnt in a party". You clearly know the rules better than that
Youre really not helping your case here madam, instead of just making things worse for yourself just take your day of ban and have "nice dayz"



The warning came after I had killed Reap twice. I decided to be a good sport and not kill Reap right after I had saw him again even after he tried to troll me into attacking him another time. I only killed him my THIRD TIME after he had hostiled against me and Tyr.

What? I tried to troll you into attacking me? I was trying to recover ds so i could do my bro's sage.


You auto followed me around Argo endlessly. Nice lie, but this topic is over justice was served. Have a nice day. :)

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Reap 3:36 PM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)
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Darlute wrote:
Magnus Gallant wrote:
If you dont know exactly what was happening darlute, you shouldnt be issuing a ban anyway.
I agree probably shouldn't. but when we have jeebs announce what he did and then deylin saying she can kill so and so more times because she's not in a party leads me to believe spam killing did in fact happen. If not her then who because Reap did indeed die 5 times and deylin got the last kill on him

Erm, I think I died like 7 times, one of them being after sleeping tyrael. But also, this isn't just about deylin, Hashmal got the 4th kill on me when he was infact in a party with mr. bob etc.

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Reap 3:37 PM on January 28, 2011 (+0/-0)
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Nolynn Theoden wrote:
Reap wrote:
Nolynn Theoden wrote:
Darlute wrote:
And after the warning you proceeded to kill him again because "i wasnt in a party". You clearly know the rules better than that
Youre really not helping your case here madam, instead of just making things worse for yourself just take your day of ban and have "nice dayz"



The warning came after I had killed Reap twice. I decided to be a good sport and not kill Reap right after I had saw him again even after he tried to troll me into attacking him another time. I only killed him my THIRD TIME after he had hostiled against me and Tyr.

What? I tried to troll you into attacking me? I was trying to recover ds so i could do my bro's sage.


You auto followed me around Argo endlessly. Nice lie, but this topic is over justice was served. Have a nice day. :)

Maby your paranoid I try to get people banned, but when I'm at 100 health in sickness and i move slow as **** ( don't have speeds) it might appear that I'm following you around when I'm trying to make it to the damn boatman

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Goddess 6:30 AM on January 29, 2011 (+0/-0)
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Reap wrote:
Nolynn Theoden wrote:
Reap wrote:
Nolynn Theoden wrote:
Darlute wrote:
And after the warning you proceeded to kill him again because "i wasnt in a party". You clearly know the rules better than that
Youre really not helping your case here madam, instead of just making things worse for yourself just take your day of ban and have "nice dayz"



The warning came after I had killed Reap twice. I decided to be a good sport and not kill Reap right after I had saw him again even after he tried to troll me into attacking him another time. I only killed him my THIRD TIME after he had hostiled against me and Tyr.

What? I tried to troll you into attacking me? I was trying to recover ds so i could do my bro's sage.


You auto followed me around Argo endlessly. Nice lie, but this topic is over justice was served. Have a nice day. :)

Maby your paranoid I try to get people banned, but when I'm at 100 health in sickness and i move slow as **** ( don't have speeds) it might appear that I'm following you around when I'm trying to make it to the damn boatman


Yeah because walking east to west across the town, clearly auto following me, is definitely trying to get to the boatman.

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