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Dean wrote:

You weren't on last night when there were two 8+ player parties along with several other small parties on.

If you want to show party sizes as proof that the game's inactive, maybe you should be recording data from multiple dates and times.

I know I wasn't. I said "as far as I've seen." Do you know how to read?

If the server is going "good." How does that constitute a pwipe? Wouldn't a better argument be "The server is going bad?"

Uhhh, again... Know how to read? I said it's been going for a good 7 months. I didn't say the server is going good.

I like to look at things in the long run. Why settle for "a while" when you could essentially make it where EVERYONE can participate in PVP to a degree? Also, blowing up FFO because one person's group has succeeded in conquering the domains? That is a good reason because?

There will always be periods when no PVP is going on.

Uh, that's one of the points behind having a lower world cap. Lowering the gap between newbs and vets so everyone can fight each other without the vets obliterating the newbs.

I know you're trying to make Terulia a pure PVP game but FFO isn't Terulia. You guys should just propose making Terulia the next Proelium if that's what you're after.

Yes. Everyone getting capped faster and more people getting to the cap faster. Meaning more equally powered people fighting other equally powered people. The experience required to prof could be increased to slow things down, but it'd kinda of be fun to be able to have real wars where most of the community gets to participate.

You guys neglect PVE too much.

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Locke wrote:

How about once a week first in world gets pwiped

Please elaborate if you're going to disagree with me.

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Locke wrote:

Locke wrote:

How about once a week first in world gets pwiped

Please elaborate if you're going to disagree with me.

Man Locke you'll do anything to get at me, huh. xD

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Exophus wrote:

1) Quit using the "pwipes don't fix anything" argument. Ever play Diablo 2? Yeah.

2) Server's been going for a good 7 months now. That is the main reason I think it should wipe. Not because Oon capped and has nothing to do now.

3) Pwiping and having pvp fights for a while is a much better idea than not pwiping and just going on with this clusterfuck of a game. While I'm on that subject... I'm actually surprised Gaku hasn't blown up FFO seeing as how Cea owns everything..

4) Metamorhpman, if you don't enjoy playing the game then what are you doing? You say you don't like leveling and getting good gear but that's like 90% of the game. Even PVP ties into leveling and getting good gear(pillaging, anyone?).

5) Making a new character doesn't even come close to emulating the experience of a fresh server.

6) Lower level cap means people getting to the cap and having nothing to do faster. Think about it. The lower the cap gets, the lower we have to lower profs for spells. Then we end up getting those spells/skills even faster.

Not sure if I missed any of the points that I wanted to address, but here's a few thoughts...

I don't think the solution to high levels being ridiculously overpowered is to lower the level cap. We(and by we I basically mean Gaku, since he's the one who's doing the math) should work to make the higher levels more balanced because in the end it would mean that servers could last longer without people all capping and having nothing to do. Maybe diminishing stat gains or something else?

1) This isn't diablo, pwiping FFO without changing anything is pretty meh.

2) Yeah it is pretty stale to me, I don't think anyone can genuinely argue against that.

3) Matter of opinion, but I will say I agree with you. It'll be fun to see groups form factions and fight for a while. But like I said earlier, once one group wins and dominates the game will go dead again.

4) Yeah...what are you doing here if you don't like to train or play the game.

5) Again...yeahhhh, especially since new banian island becomes really stale once the newbies all seem to consist mostly of alts.

6) An even lower level cap would just be really stupid in my eyes. Call me crazy, but I like that putting extra effort into training will give you an edge on people that train every couple of days.

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Yeah I know it's not Diablo 2 but they were, or Dean was, saying "games that need pwipes to stay fresh have underlying problems" and all that. Diablo 2's ladder has been very much alive for what is it? 8 or 9 years?

Plus this game is supposed to be heavily influenced by Diablo and all..

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Locke wrote:

Locke wrote:

How about once a week first in world gets pwiped

Please elaborate if you're going to disagree with me.

I was thinking that was a joke post. You can't be serious.

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Cea wrote:

Locke wrote:

Locke wrote:

How about once a week first in world gets pwiped

Please elaborate if you're going to disagree with me.

Man Locke you'll do anything to get at me, huh. xD

Yeah I was planning on saying this was a bad idea and getting it removed as soon as it hit your character.

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PWIPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

im totally up for one but really w/e man ill play regardless.

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You know, I stopped playing for a couple of months, and I came back last week to find an active game. It'd be a shame to pwipe just yet when things have gotten good. Cea owning the world seemed to unify everyone by sticking them in Giant's Helm. I think the game just needs some organized PvP to keep capped people occupied.

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I'm on it baws

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Exophus wrote:

4) Metamorhpman, if you don't enjoy playing the game then what are you doing? You say you don't like leveling and getting good gear but that's like 90% of the game. Even PVP ties into leveling and getting good gear(pillaging,

I never said I don't enjoy playing the game, on the contrary I enjoy FFO very much. But it pisses me off to great lengths when I've spent so much time getting all that gear and all that experience then one day, bam, it's all gone.

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Pwipe or no, its going to be gone one day anyway. FFO always pwipes for some reason, and even if this time it doesn't, Terulia will come out and FFO will be no more.

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I still don't like how FFO is going to be left there like a prom-night dumpster baby (lolreference), considering we're all having so much fun with it and everything. I still think it should be worked on and everything as well. Gaku put so much work into it before, and now he's created Terulia, essentially FFO without the Final Fantasy, and took it one step further. One of the main reasons I like FFO is because of the Final Fantasy history behind it.

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FFF was left behind for FFO, and with Terulia the cycle continues.

I doubt Gaku will want to keep it up since he wants more people playing a game he can actually profit from.

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Yeah I don't think Gaku wants the community divided on two different games, so I'm sure FFO will be staying down once Terulia is out.

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Locke wrote:

Yeah I don't think Gaku wants the community divided on two different games, so I'm sure FFO will be staying down once Terulia is out.

If Terulia is half as awesome as the hype, that should be no problem.

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FFO is far more refined than FFF ever was. FFO is just plain awesome, and it's really great game it just needs updates and balancing and all that. It's pretty much perfect except it isn't Gaku's ideal game. That being said, it will definitely be sad to see when FFO is gone. I just hope it comes back from time to time.

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