I come home from a lovely dinner at my father's residence with my brother and sister and I see "SINSIE LUL". Where do you people get that from? I never say haha in-game...

Let's clear one thing up in this topic: Jeff, Admins CAN ban someone for insulting them. Just because Cea and I were cool enough to let Black and friends say crap to us all the time doesn't mean we could not have slammed them back then. Sorry bro, nice try contributing. Someday you'll get your groove on. Maybe, I don't care moving on.

It's true that admins get a lot of flack but with the reputation that's been made, there's no surprise. Also, although we have a mental picture of what the rules are for admins, things have never been set in stone because it's really up to what Gaku's going to put a stop to in the end.

Personally, I don't think an admin should be able to make a bold ruling based on opinion and not an actual rule just because it's way too loose and forces things to go in his favor. It would be like when I had admin and Dzungaria was hiding in the desert hut, if I said "If you don't come out right now I'm banning you guys".

You guys already made your point on page one but Locke's still disagreeing and he's the only one that has a say other than Gaku, so you have two options: wait for another's input (I wouldn't recommend it since Gaku's busy and if he took the time to look over something like this he wouldn't have someone doing it for him in the first place), or you could ask Locke to please lift the ban or lower the amount of days, even if you disagree with what happened. A calmer trade of words lets things flow more smoothly; if you want things done don't make more reasons to hate the other side.

Like all good things, it should end with a Touhou reference:



rasa

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What, did you expect me to cry? I'm here to help Gaku and play FFO, not to go on a power trip or have god powers or play the game unfairly.

Ah, right. Someone told me that you admitted you cut Kaji from her position because you didn't want anyone to rival you and wouldn't let Emma ever do anything because you wouldn't let her, thinking she was gonna go against you.

Kinda sucks I don't have any hard proof at the moment about it...

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Yeah nice try there. No I cut Kaji for being really immature. I even tried to give her second chances. A lot. For example, she had GM until recently when she was drinking one night or something and decided to drop Ember Wyrms on every domain in the game.

Emma never did anything on her own accord. How can you blame that on me? She never did anything before I was an admin, either. Remember duping? It took Sinsie to do anything about that, when she was right there the entire time, and even had a key to the PC house Sinsie got most of his evidence from.

Its ridiculous to say that her inactivity is my fault.

I never thought she'd go against me either. Emma agreed with pretty much all of my decisions. In fact, I checked with her for her input before nearly all of them.

That evidence would be real cool, but its probably something Emma said. I know you like to take her word as fact, but not everyone is that dense.

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In any case, this topic was a lot of fun. Kinda one-sided and everything like that and everyone used the same argument every time but whatever. The fun has been milked for the time being.

Don't think I'm giving up yet, I'm just digging for more dirt.

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Cea wrote:

Aries why do you post

Cea why do you post

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Don't think I'm giving up yet, I'm just digging for more dirt.

Please don't let it be as easy to prove wrong as your last message.

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Locke wrote:

Yeah nice try there. No I cut Kaji for being really immature. I even tried to give her second chances. A lot. For example, she had GM until recently when she was drinking one night or something and decided to drop Ember Wyrms on every domain in the game.

Thank you. I remember threatening to remove Kaji's guide status for being too out of control and repeatedly killing herself for fun. She loves getting intoxicated and doing whatever on the game. Then, get this, later I find out from Kaji herself that she's been pushing for like a month to get me removed from admin to Gaku and maybe others (GH might've been around that time and he seemed a bit higher in regard to the rest of the admins), all out of spite.

Kaji might be genuinely nice, but I don't like people that go with sides rather than what's right. She's definitely not someone to trust and if she says something bad without proof she's probably lying out of her ass. Had a habit of doing that.

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I feel this conversation needs to be posted, for anyone to edit it out would be a very poor form of sportsmanship. It contains plenty of food for thought on this entire matter. You wanted to see me place my input in this topic Locke, here it is-

This portion takes place immediately following the ban:


Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
god locke why would you...
Locke says:
I said I would.
why did you say something
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
it was a JOKE and ANYONE COULD SEE THAT
Locke says:
Yeah well I didn't say "its ok if its a joke." I was tired of the joking about it, the stupid **** about me being too lenient, having no balls, etc.
Kinda wish you weren't the first person to test it but oh well
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
everyone was getting uptight so I made a typical LP joke and you're actually gonna ban me for a week
god locke...
Locke says:
I might unban you
but then Oondi and Baram did it

There's a lul in the conversation, this topic first gets posted, I announce that I'll add my input later upon returning from my work shift. After doing so it resumes as such:


Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
since you're still online, lets talk about this a minute
Locke says:
I'm really tired.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
sure, you told us not to do something, but it was NOT YOUR RIGHT TO TELL US SO IN THAT SETTING
Locke says:
I'm not changing your ban if that's what its about.
Theres a topic for this if you really want to talk about it.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
we were NOT utilizing a public channel, in nsay that would have been totally justified, however, you carry ZERO AUTHORITY over dsay
Locke says:
whole
****ing
topic
on
this
god
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
I dunno who was calling you ****less or spineless or whatever, but to take out your butthurt over it on us to basically say HAHA ILL SHOW THEM HOW ****LESS I AM is really ****ing childish and just downright unethical of you
Locke says:
I already explained this in the topic...and repeated myself a lot...I'm not going to do it again just because you refused to read the topic.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
I am reading the topic
your explanation holds zero water and we're trying to tell you why but you wont hear us
Locke says:
ok whatever
You'll never agree with me.
and I'll never agree with you
so why bother arguing
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
im bringing this whole matter to gaku's attention and requesting that our bans be overridden because there was zero need for them and they were out of place completely
Locke says:
I just got done fighting the rest of FFO over this, what makes you think anything you say will change my mind?
Ok
I told him already
but have fun
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
the only people defending you in that topic is lumino and garral, ****, shouldnt that tell you something?
Locke says:
No, I didn't talk to them before I made the decision, so no that doesn't tell me anything.
If the majority was always right, we wouldn't have any need for admins at all.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
well we know how ****thank you an admin garral was, and when has lumino ever really made a valid point for every 20 he tries to make?
so garral and lumino, two people who are also totally inactive, defending your excellent adminship should be a big neon warning sign
Locke says:
Who cares what they say, I didn't make my decision based on them, nor did I expect them to defend me
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
the whole thing is just stupid locke, everyone was *****ing and whining about whatever with names, I wasnt even reading the ****, I saw you dsay that, and so I cracked a joke
and because someone had called you ****less or whatever beforehand you got all mad and banned me
you acted in a moment of anger, you acted outside of your authority, and now you're stubbornly clinging to a mistake instead of just admitting that it was a mistake and making it right. Why is this?
you're human locke, I'm sorry, you'll **** up sometimes. This is one of those times. Why beat a dead horse to prove some imaginary point about the amount of spine and guts you have?
The real gutsy thing to do here would be to own up to your mistake and make it right
Locke says:
Its not a mistake. Nobody was listening. You guys all think you can **** around and get away with anything and my word means nothing. You think you can **** all over any admin's authority. Well, you can't.
I made it very clear not to do something, and you three went and did exactly that.
Its like a big "**** you" to me.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
it was an INNOCENT JOKE on my part, it wasnt me saying **** you, it was me trying to MAKE YOU LAUGH because you were OBVIOUSLY STRESSED and I enjoy MAKING FRIENDS LAUGH
aside from all this YOUR AUTHORITY DOES NOT EXIST IN DSAY
on another note since I'm already trying to reason with you here, why is garral being allowed to blatantly thread**** in that topic without any punishment, exactly?
Locke says:
Because Gaku made it clear its not my job.
which topic
the flamer's lounge?
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
HEY LETS SIT HERE AND FLAME PEOPLE AND MAKE POSTS THAT AMOUNT TO SPAM THAT CONTRIBUTES NOTHING AND CLOG UP THE PAGE WITH ASCII FACEPALMS
Locke says:
I'm not allowed to otherwise Dean wouldn't get away with half the **** he does.
I'm only allowdd to enforce the g/d tos
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
dude, we're talking gaku's lair here, not flamers lounge
Locke says:
oh
I thought you mean't that flamer's lounge topic
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
you wanna show that you arent one to be ****ed with you can start by swatting idiots in the forums when they act like idiots
Locke says:
I don't know cause one ascii isn't spam


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Post continued due to length

Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
dude, read all garral's post
*posts
they're blatant flames and they aren't contributing any points to the discussion
we call that thread****ting where I'm from
you dont THREAD**** in a MODERATION TOPIC thats a MASSIVE NONO
damn locke this is what I dont understand about you, the places where you need to swing your admincock around because there's justified reason, you seem either silent or afraid to
then something STUPID like this comes up and suddenly theres a triple week long ban
thats PROBABLY WHY you're having a hard time getting respect, just a thought
I respect you for what its worth, I can hardly agree with your judgement but you're the admin and I have to respect admins whether or not I think they do their job well
but damned if Im gonna sit quietly when they act outside their authority, which you are certainly guilty of in this instance
I've been contributing positively to FFO for a long time locke, I've been an excellent guide and renamer any and all times I've held the title, I'm a very patient and kind player, even in the midst of my eccentricities and bloodlust, I've been an active voice in the forums and have helped bring about several welcome updates and changes
am I really the kind of person you want to be throwing frivolous "point making" bans at?
while people like black and dean who have basically done nothing but rabble rouse troll and ***** their entire FFO life go free of any guff?
think about what kind of message that sends to the playerbase
ever wonder why so many people are getting turned off lately?
start looking at those kind of scenarios for a few minutes and it should become pretty clear
banning active players who havent truly done any wrong is not how you breathe life into a game that desperately needs life breathed into it
especially when one of those players is one of your most active and attentive guides and nsay moderators
not to sit here and brag but let's just be honest, cea is about the only other guide/renamer that does jack **** anymore
the others just occasionally decide that someone needs a new name, and for the most part they're real ****s about it when they do
Locke says:
are you done? I was trying to read your messages but they kept moving
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
go ahead and read em mang
I'm hoping you'll understand why I'm so peeved right now by the time you're finished
Locke says:
Don't try to use your position as guide and renamer...that's exactly what we hate Dean for. Also, Dean and Black are smart about not giving me blatant reasons to ban them, which you guys weren't.
I also don't see people getting turned off.
The population at large doesn't even care; only people directly involved and some vets even posted in that topic.
Positive contributions don't matter. I'm not changing it because of who you are.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
I'm not using my position, I'm making a point here
you should be changing it because its totally out of line in the first place
especially when you make totally out of line bans to players who have been in the past anything but deserving of them
Locke says:
You just used a bunch of lines telling me I should ban people like Black and Dean and not good guides/renamers like yourself...
That's using your position.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
I didnt say you SHOULD ban those guys
im asking you to think about what kind of message you send with your actions
BECAUSE YOU STILL SEEMED SURPRISED THAT THE PLAYERBASE IN GENERAL DOESNT RESPECT YOU
Locke says:
Ok, but I shouldn't worry about the message I send with my actions, I should worry about if the actions themselves were justified.
I'm not surprised.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
yes you should
Locke says:
FFO's community is ****.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
and your actions were VERY CLEARLY NOT JUSTIFIED
so why arent you WORRYING ABOUT THAT and MAKING IT RIGHT?
Locke says:
Because I believe they're justified, and I Gaku agreed with me. We let FFO off way too easy with stupid ****.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
Same thing I've been saying: You were warned, you have a clear disrespect for authority, and you think you can get away with anything. That's not the case.
Locke says:
Yes
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
we have a clear disrespect for authority and think we can get away with anything huh?
because we TOTALLY never listen to your judgement calls in moderation issues
I TOTALLY never come to you on any rename or nsay situation Im not sure on for a final judgement call, right?
I just disrespect your authority and do whatever the **** I want
I wanted to rename stat, you told me not to, I didnt like it at all but I RESPECTED YOUR AUTHORITY AND LISTENED
a hundred other similar examples come to mind
Locke says:
Not always, but sometimes yes. I can't just pick who I want to ban with these things, you were just the first one to say something stupid after I said "don't do this"
Stop taking it personally, because its not a personal attack on you.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
but are you that quick to just brush them aside to hold on to your failed argument for your bad decision?
thats the thing locke, it IS a personal attack


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Looks to be a four post ordeal you'll have to forgive me for this.


Locke says:
You're acting as if I agree its a failed argument, but I don't.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
you did it to us to punish us for being a bunch of snot nosed punks that think we can get away with anything
how is that not a personal attack on our characters as players?
Locke says:
Because its not? I didn't choose who was going to reply.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
can you not see how flawed your thinking is here?
Locke says:
I'm just like "hey don't do this" and then who are the next three people to respond trolling me? oh yeah
Nope I can't
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
can you not step back and say "hmm dsay is not a place where people are super serious, dsay is not a place where I've ever been super serious, then out of the blue one moment I decide to make a super serious post, and when we go along joking as normal im totally gonna whack you all for being irreverent punks"
no one was TROLLING YOU
but NEED I REMIND YOU THIS WOULDNT BE THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT BANNING THE NEXT PERSON THAT DOES THIS OR SAYS THAT OR THATS IT YOURE BANNED IF YOU DO THIS
AND YOU'VE BEEN JOKING EVERY OTHER TIME?
ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE MIND READERS?
Locke says:
I wasn't joking, I just never followed through. See, this is the problem, nobody takes me seriously.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
nobody takes DSAY SERIOUSLY
ITS NOT YOU ITS THE GODDAMNED PRIVATE CHAT CHANNEL
**** WE SIT AROUND TALKING ABOUT SHAVING OUR BALLS AND CAGING UP ******S AND EATING BABIES AND GOD KNOWS WHAT ELSE
ALL DAY LONG
Locke says:
I'm really tired. I explained my reasoning in that topic. If you want to argue about it more, post in there. I'm really tired and I'm going to bed.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
YOU KNOW THIS ALREADY, AND FURTHERMORE, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT DSAY IS NOT YOUR PLACE OF AUTHORITY AS AN ADMIN
SO YOU SHOULDNT EXPECT IT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY WHEN YOU TRY TO MAKE AUTHORITATIVE STATEMENTS
Locke says:
'cause caps really makes me listen to you more...
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
IN DSAY
IM LP CAPS IS WHAT I DO BEST
GOD LOCKE YOU'RE ACTING BUTTHURT AND YOU MADE A BAN OUT OF BUTTHURT IM SURE YOU'D REALIZE THIS IF YOU'D BE HONEST
Locke says:
I'm not butthurt.
I'm just tired of "Xd you have no balls" or "hey guys lets do whatever we want its just Locke"
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
THE BAN WAS OUTSIDE OF YOUR AUTHORITY, ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING, AND PROVED NOTHING EXCEPT THAT YOU'RE EXCERCISING TERRIBLE JUDGMENT
SEE THATS THE THING
WHEN DID I EVER SAY YOU HAVE NO BALLS
Locke says:
If its outside my authority why didn't Gaku say that when I told him about it.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOMEONE TELLING YOU YOU HAVE NO BALLS
TAKE IT OUT ON THEM NOT ON THE NEXT GUY
PROBABLY BECAUSE YOU DIDNT PORTRAY THE SITUATION ACCURATELY WHEN YOU BROUGHT IT BEFORE GAKU BUT ANYWAY
Locke says:
Then you tell him and see if it goes different.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
YOU'RE TELLING US WHAT WE'RE THINKING WHEN WE SAY WHAT WE SAY
AND YOU'RE HUMAN SO YOU CAN'T REALLY DO THAT
ACCEPT YOUR HUMANITY AND YOUR CAPACITY TO MAKE BAD CALLS
BE REASONABLE
PLEASE
Locke says:
Its not a bad call, and even if it was, it'd be worse to go back on it.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
AAAGHAGGHAG LOCKE NO IT WOULDNT
Locke says:
haha yeah it would
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
IT WOULD SHOW INCREDIBLE INTEGRITY ON YOUR PART
Locke says:
People need to stop thinking these poorly thought out topics, and all caps, and **** like that are going to get them somewhere.
Did you read Sinsie's post?
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
TO SAY GUYS I ****ED UP I MADE A BAD CALL I ASSUMED THAT I KNEW WHAT YOU WERE DOING AND THAT IT WAS SOMETHING NEGATIVE
ITS CLEARLY BEEN SHOWN THAT THIS WAS WRONG OF ME AND NOT THE CASE, THAT I OVERREACTED, AND AS SUCH IM REVOKING THESE BANS
THAT WOULD BE A MASSIVE ACT OF INTEGRITY
Locke says:
haha that'd look horrible, it'd be better to go "j/k about the week, im unbanning you guys now, don't do it again"
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
why would that look horrible?
Locke says:
It'd show a lack of integrity if anything.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
I'm turning off caps lock for a minute so you can see that I'm taking this seriously and imploring you to be reasonable
how would it do that?
don't just make blanket statement support your reasoning for a minute
integrity =/= stubborn refusal to budge, circumstances be damned
a big part of integrity is to fess up that you've done wrong and do the right thing when you've done wrong
Locke says:
Because, I'd be going back on something I thought and argued, and that'd make me look retarded, and also people would assume they can get their way any time I do anything.
Believe me, its better to just leave it, even if I was wrong, which I'm not.


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Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
what you're doing right now is what's making you look retarded
Locke says:
I know you don't think that because it means you can't play FFO for a week...
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
I don't think that because there's no justifiable reasoning for your administrative actions that you've taken tonight
how do you know you're not wrong locke?
how can you be so certain?
Locke says:
Ok let's get philosophical.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
you can't be certain of a damned thing, you're talking as if your judgment is infallible, humans are inherently imperfect and therefore completely incapable of being infallible in any matter
Locke says:
I believe I'm right. I've logically defended my points, nobody against me has come up with anything better. This is the way the real world works. You don't spit in the face of authority and get away with it. You don't use joking as an excuse when you insult a cop or your boss and it doesn't work here.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
why do you think the best power structures throughout the world have always had the power split among multiple parties?
Locke says:
....
they haven't
democracies don't get **** done
they sit there and bicker all day
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
power corrupts locke
why do you think there was a huge collective groan when it was shifted to "this one guy has control over every aspect of your FFO lives"
Locke says:
I guess so, but the biggest advances in civilization planning throughout history have pretty much been Empires and kingdoms...
I don't know because it was vetrin?
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
no ones judgment is pure and strong enough to handle that burden locke, even in a stupid online game
history's biggest mistakes have also been brought on through empires and kingdoms
see crusades and the third reich
Locke says:
ok
well, you got me there
doesn't mean I'm wrong though
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
locke why are you so unable to face the possibility of being wrong?
why does it frighten you so much?
Locke says:
Its not that at all...
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
what do you have to lose by being wrong? It happens, it has happened, it will happened, learn how to deal with it gracefully
you may not see it as that but outside perspective has shown differently
it's completely that
you have like, weird self confidence issues going on right now about how you're like, incapable of being strong and authoritative about anything
Locke says:
No I don't.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
and they're seriously affecting your judgment detrimentally in this situation
Locke says:
No they're not.
Where do you get this idea...
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
how do you know you don't?
it completely comes out in the way you speak locke.
not just in this instance either, through the entire time I've spoken to you, both as locke and as mai
which, funnily enough, are extremely similar in personality when you get right down to it
Locke says:
Yeah I guess I wasn't that good at making them seperate
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
you've come across as fearful of... ****, its hard to word
Locke says:
but honestly if you're talking about now I play Mai just like Locke because everyone knows
also everyone else says I was totally different on Mai
they like Mai a lot more than Locke even now that they know the truth
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
but basically you've had this fear of being an indecisive whimp, an irrational fear that has played so strongly on you that its seriously slanted your view of things
I dont see where you were totally different as mai
maybe you just acted less around me or something I dont know but ive noticed virtually zero difference in the two
both of them have always been so unsure of themselves, so afraid of screwing up or making the wrong decision
Locke says:
did we ever really talk when I was Mai...
like, much
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
and its lead to where when they do make the wrong decision or screw up, they're incapable of doing it
Locke says:
idk
I know we did I just don't remember
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
yes, we did talk a good bit
*incapable of admitting it
Locke says:
I'm more sure of myself now then I've ever been in the past.


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Okay so it took more than 4 anyway this is the end of it

Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
you are showing a serious incapability right now to even accept the possibility that you could be wrong
"even if I were wrong WHICH IM NOT"
should I scroll up and paste how many times you've uttered those very words
this a foolish sort of surity that you're adopting right now locke
I think one of the best lessons we can learn as human beings, especially those of us in leadership roles (cough cough) is that we cant be sure of a damn thing
and we can never just outright dismiss a possibility
we can't truly say that something is NOT THE CASE, we have no way of proving such a statement
Locke says:
I could be wrong, but if everyone doubted themselves we'd never get anywhere.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
if you want to be a good admin and make good decisions you need to look at the actions themselves, stop trying to explore the thoughts and intents behind the actions, and ask yourself if the actions in question were truly detrimenting the game in any way
doubting yourself constantly and being willing to examine your thoughts and decisions are different planes of maturity entirely
Locke says:
I did think about this; its not like I read that whole topic and went "ok they're dumb and I'm right"
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
that's been the prevailing theme in the way you've responded, hell in this conversation window alone you blatantly dismissed the possibility of being wrong a dozen times over
and are just now starting to back off of that hotheaded brash assuredness
Locke says:
I don't think I'm wrong. Hence I'm not backing down about it. I'm human, everyone's human, of course I *could* be wrong. Anyone *could* be wrong. We could both be wrong and there could be some third solution *nobody* saw, but I think I'm right, and in this situation, that's what matters. I considered the situation, and I still think I'm right.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
maybe you should consider why you think you're right
Locke says:
I did.
I didn't just go "I'm doing this now I'd better come up with a reason"
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
okay, so post this in a neutral style for me then, what evidences and supports do you have to justify your decision making in this instance?
Locke says:
I did in that topic.
No one listened.
I'm not repeating myself, especially not this tired.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
Locke, you totally misjudged our intentions and in doing so pretty much eroded your heralded reasoning for the ban
Locke says:
What if you're wrong?
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
no one was disrespecting authority, because you were not the authority in that situation, plain and simple
you are not an authority in dsay, you do not have the authority as an admin to tell us what we can and cannot discuss in dsay unless you of course own the dsay
which you do not
it is cea's
no authority was disrespected
Locke says:
What if you're wrong? You're not perfect either.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
I'm not perfect, but I'm showing a very simple and easy to understand line of reasoning right now
and you've been unable to meaningfully refute it
you haven't even attempted to meaningfully refute it
which makes me wonder if it is meaningfully refutable
Locke says:
because I'm really tired
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
oonds very first response and very first post in that topic
Locke says:
and already refuted it like 5 times in that topic you won't post in
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
should have been a major red flag to you
"hey wait hes right im not the authority in dsay so I cant really get mad at what they did because it was a disrespect of authority"
Locke says:
Nope I anticipated that response and later in the topic explained why it doesn't matter.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
but it does matter, we broke no rules, so you can't site any of those as the reason for our banning
FURTHERMORE
the reason you have cited for our banning "direct disrespect for authority" is invalid because in the circumstances surrounding this banning you were NOT IN A POSITION OF AUTHORITY"
realize these two very simple things and where does that leave us locke?
A meaningless and frivolous unwarranted ban
Locke says:
Your argument makes no sense. How was I not in a position of authority? That entire thing was because Cea asked about some newbie's name and I answered.
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
dsay is not your realm of authority, that is how
Locke says:
I said that I'd ban the next person that said something stupid about that and you guys did; I don't need one of the listed rules to do that.
FFO is within my authority, so yes it is
I'm going to bed
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
nsay and say are your realms of authority, those are the public channels
Locke says:
for real
I have a test tomorrowe
good night
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
you cannot moderate what is allowed and not allowed in dsay
Locke says:
OH MY GOD
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
your job is to uphold the listed rules
Locke says:
**** you if you can't respecxt that I need to sleep I wouldn't unban you even if I thought I was wrong
Luke- Sarcastic Softie says:
and the listed rules state that it is up to the domain lord to moderate what is allowed and not allowed in dsay

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Wall of text'd.

In other news.

When an admin makes a line in the sand, don't cross it.

If you do, you have only yourself to blame for what happens. I don't understand what is so hard about this concept. If you want to fight the rules, head on like this is not the way to do it.

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Maybe if locke wouldn't make "lines in the sand" as a JOKE on the dsay where we CONSTANTLY JOKE AROUND about any and everything we would have had the telepathic clarity to repsect locke's sudden domain lordly proclamations, eh?

God Lumino, you aren't around, you haven't been around, you have zero meaningful perspective to offer on what happened here, because as you can see from Locke's own remarks, this whole ban is a massive matter of context; and we're trying to help him see that context is not on his side as much as he thinks it is.

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Realtalk:

It looks like everyone ****ed up in this and it led to a huge cluster**** of misinterpretation of a series of jokes.

To expound, it also appears that all parties are subscribing to their own interpretation of said jokes, leading to a massive pile-up of egos and ****posting that leads the community to, once again, show in clean colors who the retards are and aren't.

I think it's time for a

PARADIGM SHIFT!

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WHHHHAHAAAATTTT!!!! Blax isn't banned!!!! From his own GAME.


****in wow... ;O!


There is a committing GOD here! KING BLAX WILL LIVE ON WIT HIS FELLOW QUEEN BLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOSSSSHHHHHHH

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Locke, you shouldn't overreact and make decisions like this just because someone said you have no balls. If every point of authority did that, we'd have mass chaos in the world. Politely ignore them, or mute them for an hour. This ban isn't justified at all, whether you have reason or not (which you don't). Banning for a week on these small "infractions" is just pointless. No one thought you were even serious. You have to understand that everyone assumed you wouldn't ban people in DSay because it clearly says in the rules that the domain lord decides what goes.

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Methinks Locke would've shown some leniency if one of you actually said "I screwed up, I'm sorry" instead of starting a 5-page drama. You're just being vindictive now, if you had a problem with how Locke ran things, you should've done something before he did something to you. It just makes you look like a brat.

It's just a game. You're taking it too seriously. If anything, you do need a break from it.

PS: See my signature, I bet all of you will break it.

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Aries wrote:

if you had a problem with how Locke ran things, you should've done something before he did something to you.

This is why you're an idiot. The whole ****storm started because they had problems with how Locke ran things. It's like you don't even read anything at all. Granted, they weren't super serious when the ban was put into affect, they weren't breaking any rules, just friendly joking around with another player on DSay.

It's just a game. You're taking it too seriously. If anything, you do need a break from it.

You've missed the point. Locke overreacted, and was partially because he was told he has no balls. (which honestly is true even after this banishment) He's taking **** too seriously when everyone was joking.

Maybe if I post bigger letters the dumb people will understand:

DSay is moderated by the LORD, as according to the rules. It's not his jurisdiction. Unless you're telling me the rule is false, then it's a brand new problem in itself. Either which way this banishment was made when no one knew it was even possible to get banned over DSay joking.

Locke has not addressed that point yet, and one can only assume that he has only ignored it because that's the best suitable way to avoid losing his precious integrity.

Your job is to ban people that break the rules. Not ban people that are annoying you. If you honestly think banning them was justified, then you've made it quite obvious that you're not suitable for the position.

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If Locke wanted to get off with banning somebody, he should've made an ANNOUNCEMENT on his ADMIN SAY channel, no the DOMAIN SAY channel, which AGAIN, might I remind you, is ran by the DOMAIN LORD. How many times do we have to stress that?

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