I just watched 2 red wizards fight 5 maybe 6 peopl running around curing for insane amounts, I'm aware this is heavily due to cure gear

However rws in general are broken op as ****

So I suggest a straight 15% matk nerf on rws

However with a 15% patk increase to counterbalance it

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Nerf knight too before mine hits cap :B

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reply to MaoiYaoi:

Sup, I hear you're upset that underproffed people can't beat overproffed people. We should remove levels and profs so everyone can beat everyone without that silly "Training and Dedication" part. Because we totally shouldn't be able to struggle against Seven people. Couldn't possibly be skill or just better gear.

Haven't Red Wizards already been nerfed with their main strength, heavy armour being practically unusuable now? Why not just nerf White Wizards too if cure's the problem. Why not nerf potions on Ninjas who can survive ANY scenario if they got the hi-pots to do so.

OR. You could "Keep up with your character" and train until you can kill us even with cure. Boom seems to manage.

~Nerserus.

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Nah man if they nerf my mattack zerk needs a 90% duration nerf :)

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reply to Killa:

Berserk is strong to the point you can keep a Red Wizard out of combat until they're inevitably blasted dead with no chance for them to use their ZOMGOMGOP cure. Seems legit to me.

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Killa wrote:

Nah man if they nerf my mattack zerk needs a 90% duration nerf :)

Zerk is a topic in its own, I agree it needs a slight nerf, or fear a buff, either one imo

However, I don't think red wizards are what they should be, they are supposed to a jack of all trades, not a master of all trades

Plus idc how geared or proffed you are, chances are no other class can sit there and fight seven people effectively

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Well that and the whole LOL HOLD MOBS LOL HOW YA FEEL *****

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MaoiYaoi wrote:

Killa wrote:

Nah man if they nerf my mattack zerk needs a 90% duration nerf :)

Zerk is a topic in its own, I agree it needs a slight nerf, or fear a buff, either one imo

However, I don't think red wizards are what they should be, they are supposed to a jack of all trades, not a master of all trades

Plus idc how geared or proffed you are, chances are no other class can sit there and fight seven people effectively

I'm sorry, this might be hard to swallow. Maybe, the people who attacked us, simply aren't quite good enough to take addvantage of their extra numbers. I know thats entirely impossible. But just maybe. Because I wore pure gear and wasn't darked enough, that's probably my fault for being ZOMG op and not that the Black Wizard should learn to dark.

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No other class? If we were both WWs neither of us would have died.. lmao.

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reply to Nerserus2:

For a ninja to heal themselves via potions (or any class, for that matter), it costs thirst, which means they'll be healing less and less with each heal.

There is virtually no negative afteraffect to Cure. Even moreso, Red Wizards have massive offensive capabilities, almost on par with Black Wizards in some aspects. There's a reason everyone is using a Red Wizard this hosting, and it's because they are not only adequate all-around, but "great" all around, which isn't right.

Red Wizards hit for about Ninja damage, physically.
Red Wizards hit for just under Black Wizard, magically.
Red Wizards heal for just under White Wizard amount.

Reducing their base magic power by 15% would resolve the massive magical power they have. I'm not sure if they would need 15% physical power increase, but some sort of melee buff could be nice to see for them.

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Mah massive power.. because.. it's not because my staff is better than 90-100% of the people I was fighting.. or my prof.. even though.. black wizards with lower gear and profs out-damage me by leagues.. and these WWs.. plain suck.. because.. their defensive moves are a lot stronger and they just suck at using them..

It's none of these, obviously RW needs a nerf. I will be happy to be nerfed if everyone else who needs a "fixing" is fixed too. Say good bye to that speed Relly ;)

Also! Nerf fast, zerk, hold, confuse, mute, fog, wall, conceal, vanish, backstab, and charge :)

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reply to Dr. Letha:

Actually, a poorly trained Red Wizard is the most useless thing possible. You can easily wear ele gear to defeat a mage too. What can they do about that? Nothing. Now if we're talking "Great All Round"...Have you even seen Boom's damage? You cannot compare ANY Red Wizard to that level of offensive power; he can wipe parties. A Red Wizard needs to try much, much harder to do so. ( I haven't seen that yet actually )

As for White Wizards? Their Antis are extremely useful for PvE and PvP. ( I've fought someone with antis so powerful that the guy I hit literally healed into the 40s. ) Barrier, regardless of what people say, is actually really good too and can make anyone a tank. Conceal needs no explanation for why its good either offensively or defensively. Wall can stop someone curing. Etcetera, etcetera.

Basically, Red Wizards are not anywhere near as good at offensive as Black Wizards.( Seriously. I've seen them less geared less proffed hitting higher. ) And White Wizards also have their own niche in their good collection of helpful statuses, statuses that are the majority of whats needed to take domains. ( You can't actually kill a White Wizard either. I guess that's not relevant for some reason. ).

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Please take this argument elsewhere thank you

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Nerserus2 wrote:

reply to MaoiYaoi:

Sup, I hear you're upset that underproffed people can't beat overproffed people. We should remove levels and profs so everyone can beat everyone without that silly "Training and Dedication" part.

This is basically FFO in a nutshell.

The people with least a life are most powerful.

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Shane wrote:

This is basically FFO any RPG in a nutshell.

The people with least a life are most powerful.

fixed

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