Welcome to the world of wizards vs melee, only now it's been turned around! Instead of you dealing 700+ a dark 2 with no way for me to lower the damage besides assloads of high end mage gear or dark gear, with you being able to kite or be fogged, now we get to see melee do what melee does, **** stuff up! No more fog to just be able to laugh at melee, and big damage you ACTUALLY NEED TO WORRY ABOUT!! I think it's cool, maybe the physical damage should be lowered a bit, i don't know, I can't say until we have higher level people running around beating the **** out of each other.

Personally, I don't like the new system. It takes what was already a grind, and makes it even moreso, and I don't know if monsters even drop anything at all. I havent seen a single drop, every chest I've found has been empty, and monsters at this point are little more than annoying targets you can get prof points from. Why make changes like these? The way the current leveling system is makes gameplay kinda tedious, and imagine what's gonna happen when you decide for whatever reason you're level 20, and one of the classes you've proffed up and made cool just isnt working for you? Well, now you gotta swap jobs and reprof everything. This wouldn't be so bad if you could still make more characters, or even use alternate accounts.

tl;dr, i think this new leveling system should be reverted to the old one, maybe give use one or two more character slots, maybe lower damage a little bit. or leave it where it is. we can let mages suffer a bit i think

If we get a brawler trainer i request a name like Pi Ce Pi or Iwamor for it. Just sayin, yknow

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PcP wrote:

Welcome to the world of wizards vs melee, only now it's been turned around! Instead of you dealing 700+ a dark 2 with no way for me to lower the damage besides assloads of high end mage gear or dark gear, with you being able to kite or be fogged, now we get to see melee do what melee does, **** stuff up! No more fog to just be able to laugh at melee, and big damage you ACTUALLY NEED TO WORRY ABOUT!!

Well as I don't recall an FFO where a master didn't deal worrysome damage, truthfully. A knight and ninja maybe, but in 4.0 pretty much all melee damage was scary, with or without fog. So I don't see where that came from.

And I don't care what you say, a mage NEVER started off able to one shot ANYTHING on FFO.

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SaiYeahImSexy wrote:

Fog :( baby why you do this to me!

AND DESH! Right now in FFO Iwamori does less damage to me with his 2 ancient nunchucks than I do to him with light (without ele gear)

ROAR

ww is op

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Sai's statement is untrue. I can't effectively dual wield ancient chucks (miss miss miss needzmoardualwield), and sai only does like 150 with his crappy light spell he thinks he can pvp with.

And fog is the main thing that stopped me from killing ww's honestly...

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cool story

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Truthfully, that's mostly heavy armor being op moreso than fog.

With a capped fog last hosting, masters could still deal roughly 150-200 damage a hit to me if they were capped in level with good profs and had good weapons as well. My RW this hosting, unfogged took a near full-charge screen from Seisul's knight for less than 200. And this is before figuring in the wonderful block rate (increasable by proffing shielding, which everyone can do easily).

I also have a video of Seisul hitting my White Wizard, Zekion, and Vincent for significantly more and we were all fogged. Granted, my WW's fog isn't amazing but the point is that heavy armor is way more OP than fog. Which is why most White Wizards would rather use iron armor than archwizard.

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PcP wrote:

If we get a brawler trainer i request a name like Pi Ce Pi or Iwamor for it. Just sayin, yknow

Lythian. :B

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Patty NBK or Manboy

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Lythian is an icon for anyone who was a black belt/master in his time...

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Manboy was definitely cooler


just sayin'

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Haze wrote:

Manboy was definitely cooler


just sayin'

and much more manly... and had a lot more training in! 8)

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SaiYeahImSexy wrote:

Iwa the last time my light did 150 to you is when I was using a terror bro... right now I'm carryin that Magnificent Moon Staff you wanted to buy so bad xP

unless iwas master is so under proof, and considering hes using ancients i assume not, thats not even close to being even a tad truthfull. In fact Rem wasnt carrying anceints and was able to out damage my light no problem. And before you open your mouth its capped with a moon. Light is not gunna out damage a master with the most powerful nunchucks in game. If this was true why would every ww be running around with gk's and two handers?.....you fail

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Huh. Terulia is actually happening.

I hate PvE combat, from what I can see of it. It takes too long to kill a single monster, and they spawn faster than I can kill them. I don't see any benefit to fighting the monsters, so there isn't any incentive to fight them.

So, I'm just assuming that this game is NOT actually becoming more player friendly. In fact, it is becoming less.

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I wouldn't make assumptions about the game this early in beta play otherwise. A lot of what is in the game now is temporary, unfinished, or non-existent as it hasnt' been added in yet.

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You're right. I look forward to further updates.

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I missed you Kisuke and from now on I agree with everything he says.

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I'm a little late with this topic, mostly due to me being absent, but for Fog and life being removed, Life is kind of obvious, but fog, theres going to be a vast range of armor, and damage doesent need to be further reduced, spells like fog make most physical related spells seem kind of useless, not to mention halving damage in general is overpowered combined with certain builds, and for those builds that are otherwise lacking, it takes away the point of the build to make having a spell like fog present reducing the effectiveness or point of another build.

IE a player in mage gear fogged having decent, if not better defence than someone in something like heavy, i would say 'WW compared to knight' but jobs dont effect the amount of damage you take like armor prof and armor penalties did in FFO.

As for rapid strike, its kind of useless with the way swift strike currently works.

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