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Admin Appointing, Take 2, Referendum means vote on it
Enn480 11:03 PM on March 02, 2010 (+0/-0)

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Stellarific wrote:
Okay since people are only saying this person should be admin cuz such and such and not questioning the people who are looking for the job, I will yet again, ask some more questions that I want all people to answer if they are looking for the job. Please in proper english black and hydro.

1. On the scale to 1 to 10 1 being anrachy 10 being locke down ffo, where do you stand. (this way we get a clearer picture on where you stand)

2. If one of your good ffo friends came up to you and said this person that was you're enemy or just your friends enemy was abusing a bug, how would you handle it. Be honest. I dont want some admin who is working for his friends or party.

3. How will you moderate the Icon checkers and Renamers. (some of you have answered this already, others have not)

4. Will you play the game if you are admin still?


I'm going to attempt to fill this out, TAKE ME SERIOUSLY

1. 4-5 Some moderation is always necessary, but let the kids do what they want.

2. I don't ban, so ya. I'd just beat them down until they stop abusing bugs.

3. bring back icon guidelines, but don't make them rules. let the icon checkers use them as LINES to GUIDE them, etc

only let re-namers take care of nonsense and alternative caps names. everything else goes

4. I've never played ffo 8)

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JeebsLuvsPie 11:10 PM on March 02, 2010 (+0/-0)

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Stellarific wrote:


1. On the scale to 1 to 10 1 being anrachy 10 being locke down ffo, where do you stand. (this way we get a clearer picture on where you stand)

2. If one of your good ffo friends came up to you and said this person that was you're enemy or just your friends enemy was abusing a bug, how would you handle it. Be honest. I dont want some admin who is working for his friends or party.

3. How will you moderate the Icon checkers and Renamers. (some of you have answered this already, others have not)

4. Will you play the game if you are admin still?


1. I think im a 3 to 5.

2. Depends on the how severe the bug is. If the bug was say a game breaker like duping items then the people who were involved would definitely deserve a ban (Not forever), and a forfeit of all items they own, even the stuff they are wearing.

3. As long as the Icon Checkers and Renamers are doing their job properly and don't abuse their powers then there shouldn't be a problem. If one does arise, there can always be someone to replace them. Same goes with Admins.

4. I always play.

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Lards Pingas 11:13 PM on March 02, 2010 (+0/-0)

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Stellarific wrote:
Okay since people are only saying this person should be admin cuz such and such and not questioning the people who are looking for the job, I will yet again, ask some more questions that I want all people to answer if they are looking for the job. Please in proper english black and hydro.

1. On the scale to 1 to 10 1 being anrachy 10 being locke down ffo, where do you stand. (this way we get a clearer picture on where you stand)

2. If one of your good ffo friends came up to you and said this person that was you're enemy or just your friends enemy was abusing a bug, how would you handle it. Be honest. I dont want some admin who is working for his friends or party.

3. How will you moderate the Icon checkers and Renamers. (some of you have answered this already, others have not)

4. Will you play the game if you are admin still?


1. 2 or 3. Do what you want but dont be locking people up and pulling what that citizen pulled on letto. Dont be fucking up nsay or making alts with shitty names.

2. Pics or GTFO.

3. I hire them, if they fuck up, depending on the gravity, I suspend or fire them. I'm not in the ass wiping hand holding business.

4. As much as I ever do.

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Sinsie 11:14 PM on March 02, 2010 (+0/-0)

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Stellarific wrote:
Let me make this a little clear you guys running for admin, none of you have experience with icons that ive seen. Rem the most of all of you which isnt much cuz most of his exp comes from other games. So how would make a system of rules for the icon checkers. This is the same with renaming guidelines. I guess discuss your policies for these things for the icon checkers will not have a head icon checker to call the shots.


This is something that will have to be taken care of once some people are made official. I can't believe people stopped taking care of this themselves but if they really need to wait for admins to take care of it, so be it. The admins, once made so, should discuss the matter of icon guidelines and rules with (ex)icon checkers and conclude with a list that's officially recognized as the icon check list or whatever name is settled on.

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Puffin Island 11:14 PM on March 02, 2010 (+0/-0)

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god lp i love your replies. so harsh but to the point. also will someone else ask questions. im a woman therefor i have a small brain.

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deanbad 11:25 PM on March 02, 2010 (+0/-0)

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Stellarific wrote:
Okay since people are only saying this person should be admin cuz such and such and not questioning the people who are looking for the job, I will yet again, ask some more questions that I want all people to answer if they are looking for the job. Please in proper english black and hydro.

1. On the scale to 1 to 10 1 being anarchy 10 being locke down ffo, where do you stand. (this way we get a clearer picture on where you stand)

2. If one of your good ffo friends came up to you and said this person that was you're enemy or just your friends enemy was abusing a bug, how would you handle it. Be honest. I dont want some admin who is working for his friends or party.

3. How will you moderate the Icon checkers and Renamers. (some of you have answered this already, others have not)

4. Will you play the game if you are admin still?


1. One. The less rules the better. There are really only a handful.
a. Don't abuse bugs or mechanics.
b. Don't spam kill.
c. No blatant troll names.

2. I know how the system works. There can be no conviction without proper supporting evidence, period.

3. Do I really need to moderate Icon checkers and renamers?
How about, don't abuse your position, or you're gone.

The only time a rename is warranted is when a player created a character with an unacceptable name.

Icon checkers know the guidelines for the icons they're putting in. Everyone makes mistakes too. If a questionable icon was introduced to the game, it'd be checked against the guidelines. If found unacceptable it'd be removed. Simple as that.

4. I'll play the same way I always have, and you'll all hate it. This, as always, makes me love it. I just ask that you please always walk around with atleast 10k+ gold and lots of unengraved items.

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Farkon 4:08 AM on March 03, 2010 (+0/-0)

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I really shouldn't be replying because my left part of my brain can't think well right now... YEA

1. 4, like seriously, this is byond and crap weeee're talking about, getting too serious over rules will just stress you out, although there ARE times where you have to keep common sense in mind, and the rules are for those whom lack it. Which is a large percentage of the community... Uh, I change my 4 to 8 now ;(.

2. I'd make sure my friend wasn't ****ing bug abusing first before checking out his enemy, or mine, whatever. If they both are bug abusing, I'll take the proper procures of laying down the law and using both feet to kick some ass, then trip in the progress because I probably just lost a friend who would then team up with my enemy to exact vengeance, oh well.

3. Well, since I didn't keep tabs on what's going on with icons, I'd make sure to make sure that the icon checkers were grain clear with each other and then I'd check to see if those icon checkers were too busy with real life to do the **** that they're suppose to do. Obviously though, it might be more effective to schedule icon checkers to slave, I mean work on checking the icons during a specified number of days each week. Renames would be allowed to rename, but there would be logs on the players that they renamed.

4. On a separate account that would NOT be influenced by my adminshit, I would in fact remain anonymous with that account, and obviously be subjected to my own wrath. Which would be awkward for when I have to send choclates to myself to make up with myself since I... eh.

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Lumino 5:44 AM on March 03, 2010 (+0/-0)

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My choices and my reasoning:

Sinsie: As much as I don't like either of them, he brings up good points and deserves the chance to show us if he can actually do a good job. One thing I am concerned about is Cea bending his ear to get things his way, but I'm not going to accuse Sinsie of being that weak willed without proof.

Jeebs: Friendly, fun, and respected. Even if his knowledge of the game is limited, he is a good choice for day-to-day affairs and PR especially. He's got that 'friendly' manner of speaking that is needed for an admin.

Solus: Ok, unstable decision making aside, there needs to be an admin who understands the game system. As much as I know Solus to make rash choices, and not think things through (Sorry Bro), I can say very few people know more about the inner workings of this game then he does. He also is very knowledgeable on how certain features may be abused, which allows him to put a stop to them.

Yeah, that is where I will throw my votes. A little addendum:

Cea: I think he's got too much ego to be an effective admin.
Enn: I don't think he cares enough.
Dean: He focuses too much on skirting the rules, nothing personal, but you are one of the last people I'd want with total power Dean.
LP: I don't know enough about the real him to make a true choice on this. I'm not sure what is truth and what is my own dislike of him.

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Cea 11:04 AM on March 03, 2010 (+0/-0)

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Sorry not to be clear but the point of my post was to say I liked 3 admins who didn't have power over each other. I wasn't nominating myself. But now I'd like to point out how you are all putting me down without me even putting my name in.

Too arrogant? That's purely an opinion. Everyone said the same thing when I WAS admin but I still did it right. I still judged fairly.

Dean, you judge fairly? You blacklisted me because you kept flaming me and I blacklisted you in my forums. Let's be real here.

I mean honestly I'm going to school to be a police officer. When it comes to my job, I don't fuck around. Ask Sinsie or Haze. When I was ruling recently I gave people chances and everyone hated me for it. You might remember me letting Black live in Tristram. That's because I wanted him to have a chance with things.

To say I'm arrogant is just the typical biased view of me. You guys don't get how serious I take the job of admin.

But whatever I was just trying to say I liked the odd number no over-powered stuff.

Good day, chaps.

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deanbad 11:25 AM on March 03, 2010 (+0/-0)

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You were going to be a personal trainer. You're going to school to become a police officer because your BFF Cat-sama Sinsie is doing the same thing and eu-mad.

As far as the blacklisting, eye for an eye. You troll/flame constantly in my private forum without any recourse from me, but you get butt hurt from me calling you a fag/stating what I believe to be true.

You could offer the same courtesy and just delete the offending post. That's the same courtesy I've offered everyone in my forum. You and Locke are the only two people to have ever been blacklisted in my forum, with the exception of those who won the ban lottery.

I believe you have poor judgment and you jump the gun, especially on people you have a personal problem with me. I remember you once banned Jules and I for bug abuse. You hopped online without having any real idea of what was going on and started flipping out in true cea-fashion and banned us both before we'd even finished posting our bug reports. Minutes later Gaku revoked the ban. HMMMMMM

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Cea 11:30 AM on March 03, 2010 (+0/-0)

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Dean wrote:
You were going to be a personal trainer. You're going to school to become a police officer because your BFF Cat-sama Sinsie is doing the same thing and eu-mad.

As far as the blacklisting, eye for an eye. You troll/flame constantly in my private forum without any recourse from me, but you get butt hurt from me calling you a fag/stating what I believe to be true.

You could offer the same courtesy and just delete the offending post. That's the same courtesy I've offered everyone in my forum. You and Locke are the only two people to have ever been blacklisted in my forum, with the exception of those who won the ban lottery.

I believe you have poor judgment and you jump the gun, especially on people you have a personal problem with me. I remember you once banned Jules and I for bug abuse. You hopped online without having any real idea of what was going on and started flipping out in true cea-fashion and banned us both before we'd even finished posting our bug reports. Minutes later Gaku revoked the ban. HMMMMMM

I don't recall flaming in your forum. And I did delete several of your posts. But that's not what this is about.

And I believe you are talking about the gun. In which case I had several people come to me. Two with screen shots. I had every right to. Gaku unbanned you because you whispered in his ear some bologna about you testing it or something. Even though half the game was massacred in New Banian for this testing and they basically begged you to be banned. Even so, I waited for screenshots before I did anything.

I don't jump the gun for "people I don't like". Again, I'll use Black as an example. Oond had come to Sinsie and I a TON asking for a ban. He even had screenshots. But we ruled they were not worthy of a ban, despite how crappy a person Black is.

Next?

ps: eye for an eye is not a good way to moderate...

edit: oh yeah and my choice for a career change has nothing to do with sinsie. In fact, he was the reason I didn't go for a police officer from the start. I was worried about being seen as copying him. but my life decided it was what I wanted and I had to go for it despite what people would think. Way to get the facts :)

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deanbad 12:21 PM on March 03, 2010 (+0/-0)

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The forum and the game are two separate entities. How I moderate MY forum in no way correlates to how I would moderate GAKU'S game. When you assume, you only make an ass out of "u".

We can both debate the gun incident until we're blue in the face. One or two people were killed before I realized there was a problem. After that, everyone who died was a willing participant belonging to TSH with the exception of guards.

The fact of the matter is, no one in TSH plays anymore or plans to play. I don't have any ties to kingdom's or players. I pester everyone equally. I know the mechanics better than 99% of the player base. I play the game with a light heart, as it is in fact, just a game. I'm online constantly. I believe everyone has the same right to play, no matter how nice or mean they want to be while they do so.

:)

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Puffin Island 2:01 PM on March 03, 2010 (+0/-0)

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so what if dean is clyde? he's done everything within the rules. now you're just pestering poor gaku you twit.

also at cea and dean, why are we even questioning cea's character for admin? he's not on the list to be and unless thats changed can we not do this dean and cea. im saying this cuz i dont wanna see this forum be white listed again.

also as for dean being admin, he wouldnt honestly be all that bad as admin. it would be a wise decision to have someone who knows so many game mechanics like dean as admin. cuz if some bug happened he would most likely understand them better. i know he's like our communities biggest troll, but it doesnt mean he's irresponsible. if he found something unbalanced or a bug he eventually reports them. (of course he has fun with them a little before reporting them imo)

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JeebsLuvsPie 2:18 PM on March 03, 2010 (+0/-0)

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All of the candidates have plenty of knowledge about FFO and it's game mechanics. Dean has a few good things going for him if he is admin.

Pros:
-Runs part of the forums
-Plays the game
-Is in development

Cons:
-Trolls newbies (This part is up for debate because I don't believe anyone can really be trolled, and I personally like Dean doing this. As long as it's not spam killing.)
-Trolls the forums
-Can give strange first impressions

He dosent "seem" power hungry. Never seen him rage either in-game. Yet, he is never on dsay so I can't get a proper impression of him except what he posts on the forums, which is usually "lul" posts.

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Puffin Island 2:41 PM on March 03, 2010 (+0/-0)

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I'm in development... its no honor believe me and it gives you no more knowledge about ffo or anything. It's a job not a privileged. It's ran by Gaku and we do what Gaku wants that is all.

let me do it better jeebs

pro's for dean:
-is not apart of any group and treats us all equal in his dickery. he trolls me and he trolls you, prolly trolls cea the most
-knows about game mechanic better then anyone.
-is actually really mature. i got to say he's like light years ahead of most of this community.
-knows how to moderate already.

con's

- has a tendency to piss people off.
- is extremely disliked by many groups so even though he's just as no bs as lp, it wont be tolerated as well.
- pretty much his rep.

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Lards Pingas 3:09 PM on March 03, 2010 (+0/-0)

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Stellarific wrote:
I'm in development... its no honor believe me and it gives you no more knowledge about ffo or anything. It's a job not a privileged. It's ran by Gaku and we do what Gaku wants that is all.

let me do it better jeebs

pro's for dean:
-is not apart of any group and treats us all equal in his dickery. he trolls me and he trolls you, prolly trolls cea the most
-knows about game mechanic better then anyone.
-is actually really mature. i got to say he's like light years ahead of most of this community.
-knows how to moderate already.

con's

- has a tendency to piss people off.
- is extremely disliked by many groups so even though he's just as no bs as lp, it wont be tolerated as well.
- pretty much his rep.


but i thought people disliked me too...

I need to work harder to be like dean-sama i guess.

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deanbad 4:07 PM on March 03, 2010 (+0/-0)

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lordphoenix wrote:
Stellarific wrote:
I'm in development... its no honor believe me and it gives you no more knowledge about ffo or anything. It's a job not a privileged. It's ran by Gaku and we do what Gaku wants that is all.

let me do it better jeebs

pro's for dean:
-is not apart of any group and treats us all equal in his dickery. he trolls me and he trolls you, prolly trolls cea the most
-knows about game mechanic better then anyone.
-is actually really mature. i got to say he's like light years ahead of most of this community.
-knows how to moderate already.

con's

- has a tendency to piss people off.
- is extremely disliked by many groups so even though he's just as no bs as lp, it wont be tolerated as well.
- pretty much his rep.


but i thought people disliked me too...

I need to work harder to be like dean-sama i guess.


It's because you never did not post your balls on a forum.

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Darlute 5:21 PM on March 03, 2010 [ edited by Darlute at 5:29 PM on 03-03-2010 ] (+0/-0)

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Like Jeebs said everyone nominated knows about the game mechanics.
Kati you saying Dean knows about it better than anyone else is an opinion not a fact. just saying
Still though only reasons why Dean would make a good admin is because he's not aligned with anybody (which IMO shouldn't really matter at all) and he knows the game mechanics and how to handle em. Nothing else really comes to mind that sets him apart from the rest

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Puffin Island 5:33 PM on March 03, 2010 (+0/-0)

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opinion? dude its a fact spend one day with him and youd realize that he knows a lot more then what people believe. hell he knows more about this game and mechanics then you david.

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Cea 5:38 PM on March 03, 2010 (+0/-0)

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Stellarific wrote:
opinion? dude its a fact spend one day with him and youd realize that he knows a lot more then what people believe. hell he knows more about this game and mechanics then you david.

I'd like to say I probably know as much or more about mechanics. Despite what Solus thinks, I've been here for ages and have seen the game created. Because of that I know everything that has come and gone.

I'd say you're stating an opinion. Sinsie would probably know just as much considering he's seen all the updates himself too.

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