Ninjas are craaaazy fast, like skipping across screen fast

To achieve this they just need speeds and fast

Even with just speeds they are incredibly fast

I propose that ninjas speed be nerfed slightly, maybe like 5% or something

And, for masters, a bit more of a speedboost to keep up with these ninja

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Nope.avi ninjas speed was increased to keep up with black wizards and masters in regards to their low attack.

If you have a problem with such there's a variety of moves you can use Including but not limited to: Slow, Sleep, Confuse etc.


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MaoiYaoi wrote:

I propose that ninjas speed be nerfed slightly, maybe like 5% or something

And, for masters, a bit more of a speedboost to keep up with these ninja

This is not possible with BYOND in tile mode.

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Grameramera wrote:

MaoiYaoi wrote:

I propose that ninjas speed be nerfed slightly, maybe like 5% or something

And, for masters, a bit more of a speedboost to keep up with these ninja

This is not possible with BYOND in tile mode.

they literally are like gm speed with fast its pretty crazy

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their speed is ok now, only masters need a small buff on movement speed.

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Smiffah wrote:

their speed is ok now, only masters need a small buff on movement speed.

there speed is like im barley faster with fast and hastes when they are in speeds

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Inb4 bias because I'm Queen Ninja.

Ninja speed is perfectly fine as is. Ninja severely needed this speed boost because they previously had no means of outrunning/escaping/chasing others. Contrary to popular belief, they don't go at GM speed with Speeds and Fast, they just go extremely fast, which is what Fast is supposed to do, y'know. Without Fast, they move at a perfect speed for what was intended to happen with the speed boost.

The fact that Speeds (along with every speed suffix nowadays apprarently) are in massive abundance makes this ninja speed boost even more dramatic, but eh, it's not like you guys would be for a suggestion to makes all speed suffixes much rarer, as well as wiping all currently existing speedboost suffix shoes in the game for fairness, right? Right.

You're not supposed to be able to keep up with a ninja in terms of raw speed. Ever.


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Unless the master is like Goku and goes all SSJ on them...

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reply to Dr. Letha:

***** crist kid calm down

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Dr. Letha wrote:

Inb4 bias because I'm Queen Ninja.

Ninja speed is perfectly fine as is. Ninja severely needed this speed boost because they previously had no means of outrunning/escaping/chasing others. Contrary to popular belief, they don't go at GM speed with Speeds and Fast, they just go extremely fast, which is what Fast is supposed to do, y'know. Without Fast, they move at a perfect speed for what was intended to happen with the speed boost.

The fact that Speeds (along with every speed suffix nowadays apprarently) are in massive abundance makes this ninja speed boost even more dramatic, but eh, it's not like you guys would be for a suggestion to makes all speed suffixes much rarer, as well as wiping all currently existing speedboost suffix shoes in the game for fairness, right? Right.

You're not supposed to be able to keep up with a ninja in terms of raw speed. Ever.

I'm actually going to agree with this here doctor dude. He's ninja-certified, can't get any better opinion!

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reply to Goddess:

Letha Alexander, certified Doctor with a Master's degree in Bastardry and Butthurtology.

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Aren't masters supposed to trump ninjas as the dex melee class anyway? I propose if ninja speed isn't nerfed, masters get a skill called GET THE **** BACK HERE that only works on ninjas and grabs them from a distance of up to 30 tiles.

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Killa wrote:

Aren't masters supposed to trump ninjas as the dex melee class anyway? I propose if ninja speed isn't nerfed, masters get a skill called GET THE **** BACK HERE that only works on ninjas and grabs them from a distance of up to 30 tiles.

Dexterity and Agility are two completely different factors.

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Ninja speed means they can outrun a master easily, since a master can't grab/armlock them and do any type of significant damage at the same time.

Supposedly it goes ninja>knight>master>ninja

Considering that neither of the other melee classes can even touch ninjas because of speed... this obviously doesn't work.

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reply to Killa:

But Masters can still touch Ninja.

Whether or not Masters can keep up with them is a different story.

(the obvious solution for a Master: delve into Thrown. Learn the ways of Kick.)

And that "supposed" wheel.. even I have a hard time imagining Knights as being inferior to Ninja, a lot of the time.

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Good ninjas don't take hits from knights basically ever.

And.. if charge can't keep up with ninjas, how the hell is kick going to? Thrown is one thing but the way dex/agi works on gear/weapons right now basically means you have to have a couple of slayer whips to really push out the damage with it, especially since 1 slayer whip is what 2 or 3 full sets of mithril?

Masters aren't even that good at whips... and they have innate suck at dual wielding just like a mage so dual wielding them for non throwing purposes becomes that much harder.

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