increase charge speed, because a lot of time when i charge, especially when chasing someone, It seem to derp and stop right before hitting them. its practically impossible to hit someone thats running with charge unless you are RIGHT on their ass, like literally 2-4 tiles. although, it would probably effect stamina even more being faster.

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I have to agree, I had the same problem as well in PVP, it pissed me off.

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reply to Niten:

I don't think an increase in speed will solve that thing where Charge randomly stops in front of a person; I've seen it happen with knights who run right up to a person, catching up easily, yet they still fail to actually attack with Charge.

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Charge is ok how it is now.

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I would not say it is ok. I think it's a little buggy with how it works like that.

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Minor speed buff and minor damage buff would make it perfect although I havn't pvp'd much on a knight recently. From what i've seen though I was landing charges like the old days, although i'm in speeds and don't really have stamina issues.

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the mobs moving around cause trouble for charge and a bunch of monsters moving could create a temp distruption in path finding which ruins charge even if you see a open space


unless your allowed to go over some mobs like kick this prob wont be fixxed


i kited a knight before by using mobs between to block the charge

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Charge could be like kick, make it so you pass through mobs/players maybe not causing damage to the ones you pass through, but still give it a decent attack bonus in the end.

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LAWLZ wrote:

Charge could be like kick, make it so you pass through mobs/players maybe not causing damage to the ones you pass through, but still give it a decent attack bonus in the end.

something like charge that goes through mobs hitting them on your way to the target and make it a spear skill

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Hydrocrush wrote:

LAWLZ wrote:

Charge could be like kick, make it so you pass through mobs/players maybe not causing damage to the ones you pass through, but still give it a decent attack bonus in the end.

something like charge that goes through mobs hitting them on your way to the target and make it a spear skill

Charge with spear would be referred to as Jump attack; which works like kick, it would be a nice skill. :P

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Charge is already good enough. The reason charge stops is because there's a distance limit. Think of it like you're charging at someone who's far away, but you tire out before you get there. That aside, making it faster is probably impossible with BYOND. Suck it up.

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Professor wrote:

Charge is already good enough. The reason charge stops is because there's a distance limit. Think of it like you're charging at someone who's far away, but you tire out before you get there. That aside, making it faster is probably impossible with BYOND. Suck it up.

If their tired; their stamina would be wrecked..>.>

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reply to MoonCross:

If you want to suggest that charge use up a knight's stamina bar completely, that's fine by me. All I'm saying is that charge is quite fine as it is, and even still overpowered in the opinion of others.

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Charge cannot hit if the person leaves the screen the charger started charging, as I recall

Works fine to me, just don't keep charging people on the last tile of your screen, on my bw the lvl 20 wipe I ran around fasted and kept making tyr charge me about 15 times before he finally hit me, albeit it 1-shot me

Soooo, I think its fine as is

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MaoiYaoi wrote:

Charge cannot hit if the person leaves the screen the charger started charging, as I recall

Works fine to me, just don't keep charging people on the last tile of your screen, on my bw the lvl 20 wipe I ran around fasted and kept making tyr charge me about 15 times before he finally hit me, albeit it 1-shot me

Soooo, I think its fine as is

your lv 20, try lv 55.
You'd be surprised.

If your lv 55 and tanked, charge does 50 to at least 100 dmg if you suk, if you got a decent weapon, you just may score between 100 - 200 dmg; unless you had a mythos or giants blade; which will hit up to 400 dmg. This is something that I've seen. The highest I hit with charge was at the 400's thus far. If your weak and the enemy knight is capped, charge can score up to 600 dmg.

Charge works well at the beginning on weaker users but eventually sucks later on to some extent. But whatever, just my opinion. Actually it sux and it kicks ass at the same time.

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reply to MoonCross:

You'd be surprised. If you know what you're doing, you can hit for very high numbers.

Also keep in mind that PvP damage is lower than damage vs monsters, and PvP shouldn't be your only concern for a skill.

By the way, what do you mean by "level 55 and tanked"? If you mean you're playing the class more towards a tank style, I really hope you know that it's impossible to limit a class to a style like that. The reason knight is so good is that it plays the roles of tank and attacker very well. Since many argue that it should have only been focused on tank style, that's another reason it's fine as it is, even if your numbers are correct.

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Professor wrote:

reply to MoonCross:

You'd be surprised. If you know what you're doing, you can hit for very high numbers.

Also keep in mind that PvP damage is lower than damage vs monsters, and PvP shouldn't be your only concern for a skill.

By the way, what do you mean by "level 55 and tanked"? If you mean you're playing the class more towards a tank style, I really hope you know that it's impossible to limit a class to a style like that. The reason knight is so good is that it plays the roles of tank and attacker very well. Since many argue that it should have only been focused on tank style, that's another reason it's fine as it is, even if your numbers are correct.

I am very aware of that.

I say that because of tanked white wizard.
Personal experience fighting one... Knights can't kill them 1 on 1, they can just use their defence buffs + cure spells, then light you to death.

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MoonCross wrote:

Knights can't kill them 1 on 1

Debatable. This should depend on the level and (dark) gear of each and also the situation you are in.

Regardless, this isn't the issue in this topic. The "issue" of this topic isn't even an issue since what is suggested can't logically be implemented (edit: from what I've heard Gaku say about changing speeds in the game) and the "bug" isn't a bug.

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MoonCross wrote:

Professor wrote:

reply to MoonCross:

You'd be surprised. If you know what you're doing, you can hit for very high numbers.

Also keep in mind that PvP damage is lower than damage vs monsters, and PvP shouldn't be your only concern for a skill.

By the way, what do you mean by "level 55 and tanked"? If you mean you're playing the class more towards a tank style, I really hope you know that it's impossible to limit a class to a style like that. The reason knight is so good is that it plays the roles of tank and attacker very well. Since many argue that it should have only been focused on tank style, that's another reason it's fine as it is, even if your numbers are correct.

I am very aware of that.

I say that because of tanked white wizard.
Personal experience fighting one... Knights can't kill them 1 on 1, they can just use their defence buffs + cure spells, then light you to death.

White Wizards are impossible to kill because of their skills rather than the Knight's?

Better nerf Irelia.

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Knight can kill with charge, just be lucky same as me and get a Plague mylthos and then your charge gonna be like 250-350 damage, but 130 poison tics.

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