I know that keysharing was made against the rules because of complaints but if 2 people tell the admins that they are keysharing we should be able to sign some kind of complaint waiver and do it ;)

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If two people tell the Admins that they are keysharing, they should be banned.

For keysharing.

Which is against the rules.

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have you ever been friends with some dude but not with their brother and their brother is on their key half the time and pks you when he is? that's why keysharing is stupid the end

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Shane wrote:

If two people tell the Admins that they are keysharing, they should be banned.

For keysharing.

Which is against the rules.

Considering that as an admin you allowed duping to happen with your friends with your knowledge and never stopped it.... I doubt you have any right to decide what is banworthy.

Anyway... I was talking about getting permission to keyshare before doing it because my friend berry has never used byond before she joined ffo less than 2 weeks ago... And setting up some of her stuff for her allows me to teach her better to be a boss like me.

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reply to Killa:

Use words like everyone else does.

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Killa wrote:

Shane wrote:

If two people tell the Admins that they are keysharing, they should be banned.

For keysharing.

Which is against the rules.

Considering that as an admin you allowed duping to happen with your friends with your knowledge and never stopped it.... I doubt you have any right to decide what is banworthy.

Anyway... I was talking about getting permission to keyshare before doing it because my friend berry has never used byond before she joined ffo less than 2 weeks ago... And setting up some of her stuff for her allows me to teach her better to be a boss like me.

Considering that as a player you are completely incapable of actually following and respecting rules... no.

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Shane wrote:

Killa wrote:

Shane wrote:

If two people tell the Admins that they are keysharing, they should be banned.

For keysharing.

Which is against the rules.

Considering that as an admin you allowed duping to happen with your friends with your knowledge and never stopped it.... I doubt you have any right to decide what is banworthy.

Anyway... I was talking about getting permission to keyshare before doing it because my friend berry has never used byond before she joined ffo less than 2 weeks ago... And setting up some of her stuff for her allows me to teach her better to be a boss like me.

Considering that as a player you are completely incapable of actually following and respecting rules... no, because I am legitimately butthurt and crying tears of blood out of my ass.

Since when do you accept or deny suggestions to the rules Shane? And sorry to burst your bubble... but pawnin you doesn't break any rules.

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reply to Killa:

I fail to see how any alleged use of en passant is an acceptable retort to any argument I've brought up.

Also, it's cute how you think quoting that post means you win arguments.

To be more precise and on topic, since you seem not to understand, keysharing was made to be against the rules because people have actively abused it in the past to completely and legitimately grief other players to an unacceptable extent.

Additionally, you are already explicitly known to many, many players to be a problem user, with either explicit extreme rules lawyering to prevent being banned or just outright disregard for rules and taking the bans anyway, as well as a history of not understanding why a good decision is good and why a bad decision is bad.

These two points combined can very easily conclude into denying you (or, really, anyone, since the first issue is very large) the "right" to keyshare. There's way too many factors going on with it from the get-go.

1) How would the Administrative team monitor such keysharing, anyway? How can we guarantee that your "friend" who is "new" is actually seriously new, and how can we guarantee that you won't use your "friend"s account for your own benefit?

2) Why the hell do you even need to access your "friend"s account or vice versa for teaching purposes? A pretty hefty amount of players have learned from actually playing and training their own character - if anything, and you of all players should agree because of how elitist you get about being an oldbie - new players have everything spoonfed to them. Why would you want to contribute to this and further the issue of players who have less than a mediocre grasp on advanced concepts because it was all spoonfed to them?

3) What if your "friend" who is "new" quits but we never find out? It could easily be arranged to create an informational barrier from your side to the Administrative team that you could legitimately, totally own both keys and none of the admins would know.

4) What if your "friend" who is "new" doesn't quit, and remains to play for quite a while? After so long and getting so strong, we would eventually have to revoke your right to keyshare anyway because a) it has served it's purpose and b) it becomes a tool to abuse everything that has caused it to become a bannable offense to begin with.

5) Assuming it would be allowed, suddenly it becomes like multikey exemptions and everyone is posting, requesting rights for keysharing. How would it be moderated? What would truly be good, rightful reasons to keyshare? Why is your reason even a good reason anyway?

Just because I am currently not an admin does not invalidate the fact that I have been and that I know what is needed to be an admin and what kind of logic to follow when deciding on possible changes to the rules.

I'm even willing to explicitly bet my own ego that one of the current admins will approve the message I have written here about why it's not something to be done. If none of them approve my message, boy will my face be red!!!

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This is not something to be done.

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