[17:28] That: the only solution to Garland Alts that will 100% Work at stopping them from being workable:
Make all drops from Garland and his chests be instantly engraved and bound to the garland runner. They cannot be unengraved. "I'm sorry, a strange force is preventing me from removing the engraving from your "
[17:29] That: Got **** drops? Sucks to be you.
[17:29] That: Got drops tailored to you? Lucky.
[17:29] That: Either way, who would make alts when their main can't benefit? :V
[17:29] arkheRdy: Well
[17:29] arkheRdy: In that case the only acceptable choice is the remake alts until you get a drop tailored to you
[17:29] arkheRdy: But ****, this game's already ruled by no-lifers
[17:30] arkheRdy: It would give people something to do than whine about how boring a recycled game is
[17:30] That: Keep in mind, they have to raise the alt up to level 40. And they cannot give any drops to the chair they like.
[17:30] That: char*
[17:30] arkheRdy: Yes.
[17:30] That: So if they really want to no-life it that bad, let em
[17:30] arkheRdy: If I still played like I used to, I'd just do a blanket redo of characters until I got a good drop.
[17:30] arkheRdy: It's not difficult with the new system, it's more about staying online rather than gathering experience.

I think this would be reasonable for basically the points listed above. If accepted, it should go in immediately to prevent further destruction of the economy.

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reply to Shane:

congrats on the worst idea ever

this is horrible that you would end up getting random items that your class doesent need and you cant trade them off for better



oh look my master got a moon staff of blundering


cant wait to use this warlord shield on my bw


lol


p.s shane stop always trying to ruin ffo you dont play you just hover around the forums all day

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I'm against Garland alts.. however this is not the way to handle them. The fact that you would make such a post even more supports my postulate in regards to your malicious intent behind these posts :)

Funniest part is that I could still make an alt, do Garland, remake with the same name, and do Garland and own those items again. Making spam recreation the best way to get good items is even dumber than making spam alts the best way to get good items.

Not only this but it would call for a pwipe because all of the Garland drops I ganked people for would still be ruining the nonexistant economy.

Just.. no.

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I rather like this idea.

To prevent the engraved-items issue that was brought up, a simple "If Bob is deleted, any Bob-engraved/bound items are deleted alongside him." would prevent such chicanery.

And honestly, the game is playable without you having to grind Garland alts all the time.

Or alternatively, another way to make Garland alts more annoying to go through, but still possible for the no-lifer-must-be-da-best-evar-crowd:

Auto-kick people who idle for an hour. And to prevent auto-clicker usage to be pretend-active, they have to either be actively chatting or fighting mobs to be considered active.

There's no reason to retain the current "idle overnight to make the game look busy" mechanic due to the fact the game cannot have a BYOND hub entry anymore.

That will also come with the benefit of people not coming back to find someone had killed their AFK dood constantly and took their stuff.

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I don't believe in Garland alts.. but not being able to trade Garland drops is stupid. I would even rather a 1-Garland-Per-Key and making multiple keys illegal.

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reply to Draven:

funny if you sell something to someone or trade to them and you want revenge enough you can just delete the alt and destroy the item


all this thread is is ppl crying over garland since its drops are far better then frost dragons now and the rest laughing at them

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I don't mind Garland, Hydro. I just wish farming Garland alts were not the preferable choice over dragons, because I'm not into alt farming and never have been an alt-farmer.

You guys like to look at my team as the must-be-the-best but... none of us have done more than 1 Garland... my alt is level 15.

The other team has 5+ people that have done 2+ Garlands... the reason we have more items is because they died and dropped theirs.

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Shane why are your ideas getting stupider and stupider
The point of garland is to be your final quest that makes you money and possibly a sage ring

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I would like to suggest that Shane's ideas have been stupid for a very long time and the community allowed them to pass until they fermented into the pool of idiocy that we are now faced with :X


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If an item were to be bound to the finder, it would not be tradable to anyone other than the shop. No unengraving it to remove the bind. It's your item to either shop or to use on your character. Selling it to others, or giving it to an alt would be impossible.

And no, this isn't a completely insane idea. Most all MMORPGs or multiplayer RPGs use character-bound quest items to prevent the economy from being screwed over by alt-farming. It's a very normal concept.

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Something being inherently overdone makes it good?

One of the better parts of FFO was the way items move in PvP.

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edit: well son of a *****, for some reason Terulia won't accept the post I wrote up for you guys explaining in great detail how this idea is beneficial.

so, sucks, have the abridged version

1) has the possibility of giving amazing items from garland still
2) still offers the ever alluring option of shopping for gold
3) prevents farming garland alts to get perfect items with ease on a main
4) offers new possibilities for people who really do want to be the best of the best by allowing them to have Garland determine if their character is an alt or a main

Something being inherently overdone makes it good?

Typically, yes.

Cliches are cliche for a reason.

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Unless you discover a magical way of bringing hoards of new players, I don't see why gimping old players ability to get cool things makes sense. You're also suggesting this, while nothing would be added to compensate, which to be honest this game has needed for ages but never gets. Just nerf explosions, with nothing actually fun added.

There comes a point where balance is just too boring.

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Hazedreamfreysaraboy wrote:

Unless you discover a magical way of bringing hoards of new players, I don't see why gimping old players ability to get cool things makes sense. You're also suggesting this, while nothing would be added to compensate, which to be honest this game has needed for ages but never gets. Just nerf explosions, with nothing actually fun added.

There comes a point where balance is just too boring.

Wow, Haze turned cool?

When the **** did this happen.

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reply to Hazedreamfreysaraboy:

Upvotes for you sir!



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